Roman
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Post by Roman on Dec 14, 2020 10:54:30 GMT -5
I understand some of the hesitancy about lockdowns because it is difficult on people financially but also it has very negative effects on mental health. ): I don't know if you guys over there have the same issues but our government just keeps fighting over stimulus and people are getting evicted from not being able to work and forced to stay in homes filled with violence courtesy of lockdown. It is not so open and shut. Especially here in America where things are not well organized with it. I understand it’s a dilemma. But the choice is obvious. People getting sick and dying is not an option. Even if you would want to let people keep income by letting them work. Once they get sick, their business and income is wrecked anyway. America is trying to play a mild version of keeping things open at all costs. Letting 300,000 people die is a harsh price to pay. And don’t forget, even with a hard lockdown there are still many people at risk because they work in “essential” industries. It’s mostly trying to avoid unnecessary infections from social interaction and luxury trips. Over here we didn’t get any stimulus personally. However the government funds businesses and corporations to let their employees keep their job. For those who get laid off, we have unemployment benefits. For now hardly anyone is in trouble financially (at least in The Netherlands). But once this is over and the government stops the support, we might find a lot of skeletons in the closet (hopefully not literally). I understand your point about mental health. Some people seriously lack support. But in general it gets exaggerated, because people are spoiled. I think this is a good time for a reset. People should think about how they live and what’s actually important.
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Post by oliviabenson(Taylor's Version) on Dec 14, 2020 13:06:56 GMT -5
I understand some of the hesitancy about lockdowns because it is difficult on people financially but also it has very negative effects on mental health. ): I don't know if you guys over there have the same issues but our government just keeps fighting over stimulus and people are getting evicted from not being able to work and forced to stay in homes filled with violence courtesy of lockdown. It is not so open and shut. Especially here in America where things are not well organized with it. I understand it’s a dilemma. But the choice is obvious. People getting sick and dying is not an option. Even if you would want to let people keep income by letting them work. Once they get sick, their business and income is wrecked anyway. America is trying to play a mild version of keeping things open at all costs. Letting 300,000 people die is a harsh price to pay. And don’t forget, even with a hard lockdown there are still many people at risk because they work in “essential” industries. It’s mostly trying to avoid unnecessary infections from social interaction and luxury trips. Over here we didn’t get any stimulus personally. However the government funds businesses and corporations to let their employees keep their job. For those who get laid off, we have unemployment benefits. For now hardly anyone is in trouble financially (at least in The Netherlands). But once this is over and the government stops the support, we might find a lot of skeletons in the closet (hopefully not literally). I understand your point about mental health. Some people seriously lack support. But in general it gets exaggerated, because people are spoiled. I think this is a good time for a reset. People should think about how they live and what’s actually important. I think the mayor of Berlin said it almost perfectly as he said on Friday: "How many lifes is a good shopping trip worth?" I think the most important thing ever should be to safe lifes, and unfortunately it's not possible without those lockdowns. And here in Germany you can leave your home as long as you don't meet with other people.
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Post by taytaytay on Dec 14, 2020 13:53:48 GMT -5
I mean no matter where you are, lockdown sucks. I know you guys have it worse in the US, you absolutely do, but it really sucks to not be able to do normal things. I haven't seen my nephews in a year, it's been 9 months since I saw my family, I can't go to the uni I'm paying stupid amounts of money for, and normally my only interaction in a day is with the postman or the cashier in Tesco. I understand the need for it, and ultimately I know we're better off for lockdown, but it does also really suck. This is no way to live.
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Post by oliviabenson(Taylor's Version) on Dec 16, 2020 2:24:20 GMT -5
952 people died in the last 24 hours. I guess we will get the christmas of death. Sounds like a horror movie, but instead it's real horror.
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Post by oliviabenson(Taylor's Version) on Dec 16, 2020 9:05:46 GMT -5
The first German hospital now has started the triage, so not everyone will get a treatment anymore because they don't have the capacities.
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Post by patrick04 on Dec 17, 2020 11:23:57 GMT -5
Looks like Northern Ireland going to have 4 weeks lockdown from Boxing day. Knew this would happen people dont soical distance are were mask.
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Post by SomeFearlessChick on Dec 20, 2020 9:19:10 GMT -5
Questions to all:
How is Covid currently impacting your everyday life?
What has been the cultural response to the pandemic in your country?
Do you have any lockdowns/restrictions/public safety measures in place?
Do you feel the virus is becoming normalised (like it's 'just something to live with' now)?
And what are your current feelings on the state of things?
Thanks, just curious!
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Post by chantel on Dec 20, 2020 11:21:17 GMT -5
Questions to all: How is Covid currently impacting your everyday life? What has been the cultural response to the pandemic in your country? Do you have any lockdowns/restrictions/public safety measures in place? Do you feel the virus is becoming normalised (like it's 'just something to live with' now)? And what are your current feelings on the state of things? Thanks, just curious! The only changes in my daily life has been working from home, not being able to go out to restaurants and movie theaters. It did significantly affect my ex boyfriend's life though. His parents are blaming Covid on them not being able to get their visas renewed. The cultural response I think is that most people don't care about Covid. I think there are people that will pretend like they care but don't. I feel like young adults that don't live with their parents are living life normally but people who do live with their parents are being careful. All of my friends live with their parents so we haven't seen each since around March. Honestly I stopped listening to news on restrictions so I don't know if we are currently under restrictions or not. It seems like restrictions change on a weekly basis. I guess I'm pretty indifferent towards Covid now. Also, with schools being online now my niece has practically moved into our house now. Her parents can't assist her with her school work because they have their own work to do so my mom helps. It must be so rough for parents that don't have additional help for their kids.
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Post by oliviabenson(Taylor's Version) on Dec 20, 2020 14:56:01 GMT -5
Questions to all: How is Covid currently impacting your everyday life? What has been the cultural response to the pandemic in your country? Do you have any lockdowns/restrictions/public safety measures in place? Do you feel the virus is becoming normalised (like it's 'just something to live with' now)? And what are your current feelings on the state of things? Thanks, just curious! Because I'm at home since years because of my disease, it's not impacting my life very much, just a bit, because I don't hae people meeting me since almost a year now It's a bit difficult here. Around 60% are really careful and understand that they have to follow those rules for distancing, wearing masks and so on. The other 40% are split into two groups, one group are the people who don't care and keep making party and live like there is no Corona. The other group are the conspiracy people who say Corona doesn't exist and so on. Both groups are protesting against everything that is to fight Corona and sometimes there even are people rioting at those protests. Yeah, Germany is in lockdown since Wednesday and only grocery stores are open (and in some places schools). Before that we had restaurants closed since november 1st. Also we have to wear masks in public places, need to distance and are only allowed to meet 2 other people from one other household. Slowly, yes. It's more normal than at the beginning of the pandemic, but I think it will never be completely normal. I think (especially Germany) waited too long to do something and now we have a real big problem. They thought they know everything about the virus from the first wave and wanted to keep everything (especially schools) open at any cost, know we have many death people and hospitals with not enough resources and beds. That's why I say that most of te deaths now are because of the state governmments in Germany (who blocked everything Merkel tried) and those stupid party people.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2020 20:04:22 GMT -5
Questions to all: How is Covid currently impacting your everyday life? What has been the cultural response to the pandemic in your country? Do you have any lockdowns/restrictions/public safety measures in place? Do you feel the virus is becoming normalised (like it's 'just something to live with' now)? And what are your current feelings on the state of things? Thanks, just curious! 1. Well, I am probably LESS effected than some people. My biggest problem is my anxiety disorder decided to pick the dumbest thing to freak over...the masks. I have problems with any sort of constriction over my mouth. So it gives me serious anxiety attacks. So basically by most standards due to mental health I am exempt. Nevertheless, that doesn't stop me from getting asked at work why I do not wear one and having to explain to random strangers I have Generalized Anxiety Disorder and one of my triggers is yadda yah or having some person glare at me, act rude to me, etc. I also get frustrated when I actively try to stay as far away from people as possible, waiting till aisles clear out and everything, to have someone wedge right next to me for items. AREN'T I SCARY TO YOU? On another note my anxiety disorder also makes THIS worse in general because I am terrified I will get it and most of my family is high risk so my instant thought is if I get it I will murder my family. My friendships got strained and I lost both of my close friends I made during the pandemic so it was actually pretty hard to begin with....... 2. Um America is an absolute dumpster fire about the entire thing. Tear worthy amounts of stress it has formed. 3. Idaho left it up to the counties. My county doesn't have many so the biggest thing is the stores themselves enforcing the policies. So we don't have much if I don't leave my county. 4. I honestly don't know how it won't be at some point. It appears to be like a flu (especially with London developing a mutated strain now). I think once the vaccine rolls out it will be another one of those things. I think right now it is trying to protect as many as possible before we get overrun with the dilemma. Which some places did better than others. 5. We are a dumpster fire. So much of this has become a way to virtue signal and been politicized. People's lives should not be political to begin with. I think honestly I'm just burned out. like I feel so f**ing dead from stress over it and I have been a hermit for most of it and everything just went to crap and I think you just have to begin to let it go or you'll just kill yourself which I considered a few times because I didn't see how I wasn't going to kill my family or how I'd be able to ever work since I can't cope with the masks. I wish more people had some empathy about the whole damn thing. I've just been shown how absolutely selfish Americans are.
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Post by SydneyPaige on Dec 20, 2020 20:16:41 GMT -5
Questions to all: How is Covid currently impacting your everyday life? What has been the cultural response to the pandemic in your country? Do you have any lockdowns/restrictions/public safety measures in place? Do you feel the virus is becoming normalised (like it's 'just something to live with' now)? And what are your current feelings on the state of things? Thanks, just curious! How is Covid currently impacting your everyday life?
There's definitely a lot of guess work around when and if we're going into lockdown. It seems to be the only thing people want to talk about and I was over talking about the virus in like, May. I guess there have been lots of changes at work. Policy and rules change a little bit, often. What has been the cultural response to the pandemic in your country?
I think the Canadian government have been strict but not too strict on lockdown measures. I can't say I know anyone who got charged personally for breaking covid measures but I don't know. I guess people are frustrated. A lot of people just want things to go back to normal and are tired of the rules. I doesn't really bother me. I just wish people respected my boundaries but that was even before the pandemic. Do you have any lockdowns/restrictions/public safety measures in place?My region is going into lockdown tomorrow. The whole province is going into lockdown on Christmas Eve. Do you feel the virus is becoming normalised (like it's 'just something to live with' now)?I personally felt that way back in march. It's not really a big deal to wear a mask and stay 6 ft away from people. And what are your current feelings on the state of things? I'm just paranoid a lot. Being at work doesn't help because you really are dealing with people at their most frustrated right now and you want to yell at people to stop pulling down their mask to talk to you or to stop reaching behind your shield all the time but my company policy doesn't allow me to say anything. That and it's not worth the argument. I'm just trying to watch out for myself the best I can. I can't change everyone else.
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Post by taytaytay on Dec 21, 2020 7:07:16 GMT -5
Questions to all: How is Covid currently impacting your everyday life? What has been the cultural response to the pandemic in your country? Do you have any lockdowns/restrictions/public safety measures in place? Do you feel the virus is becoming normalised (like it's 'just something to live with' now)? And what are your current feelings on the state of things? Thanks, just curious! 1) Literally haven't been out in months. Went to the pub like twice in September and other than that and trips for food, I haven't been out. I haven't seen most of my friends in 9 months or my family in a year. I'm also studying from home and right now it's looking like I'll be home for Christmas for at least two months, if not longer, because of restrictions. 2) Yep! It gets complicated in the UK because of our national set up, but I think all four governments are either in lockdown now or entering lockdown this week. We won't be able to do anything but the essentials. 3) For a lot of people, no, but there's growing sentiment to say that we should just get on with life because 'what's a few deaths' which is just ridiculous. I am struggling a lot, and I'd like things to be back to normal, but I'd also rather we minimise deaths as much as possible. 4) I am fed up! I'm ready to do some normal stuff again. Even just take a train journey and have it be comfortable rather than it being too hot and wearing a mask. EDIT-I missed the cultural response, but I think it's a 50/50 split. Most people don't realise just how divided the UK is as a country, and your response to it largely depends on whether you support the government or not.
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Roman
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Post by Roman on Dec 21, 2020 9:20:14 GMT -5
Questions to all: How is Covid currently impacting your everyday life? What has been the cultural response to the pandemic in your country? Do you have any lockdowns/restrictions/public safety measures in place? Do you feel the virus is becoming normalised (like it's 'just something to live with' now)? And what are your current feelings on the state of things? Thanks, just curious! How is Covid currently impacting your everyday life? Surprisingly my life is definitely not worse, maybe even better. The worst part is the fear of getting sick or getting others sick when I encounter people. But since I'm in isolation most of the time anyway that impact is limited.
On the upside I prefer working at home. That eliminates a lot of the work drama. My social life is also fine. Every saturday I go for a walk with my friend, that's nice. Speaking of exercise, I should run more. I'm only running once or twice a week at the moment. Also at home I've become too much of a slacker (like Jazzy would say).
What has been the cultural response to the pandemic in your country? I'm glad I live in the far south of The Netherlands. People are more disciplined and it's not as crowded as in the western part of the country.
Do you have any lockdowns/restrictions/public safety measures in place? At the moment we're close to maximum restrictions. Only supermarkets, pharmacies and drug stores are open. We also are starting to push travel restrictions (finally). It's desperately needed because infections are at all time highs. It's sound worse than it is. Many people can still work because they are in "essential" businesses.
Do you feel the virus is becoming normalised (like it's 'just something to live with' now)? During the summer it looked like it. But now most people are aware of the severity of the virus again.
And what are your current feelings on the state of things? I respect the government for really trying to take everyone and everything into consideration. However they are too soft. They should've put their foot down earlier several times. Freedom is only deserved when people take responsibility. Too many people showed they are irresponsible going against what's right to do and trying to exploit every loophole of the regulations. I'm also concerned that we will not learn from this. This is the ideal time to rethink our behavior and how society is organized. I even fear it will be worse.
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Post by SomeFearlessChick on Dec 26, 2020 4:46:47 GMT -5
Thanks for opening my eyes, guys. I'm very sorry to hear how chaotic things have become in your regions of the world. I hope 2021 sees some positive development for yall
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Post by Roman on Dec 29, 2020 15:53:50 GMT -5
Daily infection numbers are down a bit. But that might be due to less people getting tested over the holidays. The number of people having to go to the hospital and even ending up at the ICU have climbed quickly. That’s alarming. And to top it off I fear for New Year. Fireworks are forbidden. But since scum will probably try to set it off anyway, it might become a battlefield.
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