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Post by taytaytay on Aug 16, 2020 7:51:10 GMT -5
I had a minor worry just before about whether my recent incline towards abruptness and saying what I think outright will cause people to think I'm a b*tch but then I realised I couldn't care less if they did 🤷♀️ As I'm getting older the f*cks I have left to give are running pretty dry. Tbh in some situations I think it's better to be abrupt than to dance around it all. Sometimes you've just got to be to the point, and I think ultimately for most people it's better to just get to it.
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Post by SydneyPaige on Aug 16, 2020 10:33:23 GMT -5
I had a minor worry just before about whether my recent incline towards abruptness and saying what I think outright will cause people to think I'm a b*tch but then I realised I couldn't care less if they did 🤷♀️ As I'm getting older the f*cks I have left to give are running pretty dry. Tbh in some situations I think it's better to be abrupt than to dance around it all. Sometimes you've just got to be to the point, and I think ultimately for most people it's better to just get to it. Exactly. Especially if you think someone is not a safe person to be around.
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Post by Roman on Aug 17, 2020 7:56:44 GMT -5
Sometimes I feel a bit stupid having admired so called heroes in my life. I guess I had to learn the hard way that it's not healthy to think these people are so great, so perfect, larger than life. Take Taylor for example. I admired her so much. I thought she was this perfect person. My apartment is filled with thousands of dollars of merch. But in reality merch is a stone cold business. Taylor's music is slowly going downhill. And as a person she now tries to represent ideologies I despise.I guess true heroes are "regular" people who act responsibly.
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Post by SomeFearlessChick on Aug 17, 2020 9:00:21 GMT -5
Sometimes I feel a bit stupid having admired so called heroes in my life. I guess I had to learn the hard way that it's not healthy to think these people are so great, so perfect, larger than life. Take Taylor for example. I admired her so much. I thought she was this perfect person. My apartment is filled with thousands of dollars of merch. But in reality merch is a stone cold business. Taylor's music is slowly going downhill. And as a person she now tries to represent ideologies I despise.I guess true heroes are "regular" people who act responsibly. Taylor is just a person who happens to be really good at writing songs and selling millions of records. Beyond this, there's no real reason to idolise her imo. Most people who know me, know me as the 'Taylor Swift girl', but I'm also open about my criticisms of her. It's been half a year since Miss Americana was released and I still don't feel like I've 'got' it. If the intention was a larger message, it should have been funded for that, but instead it's literally just a documentary about Taylor Swift that people apparently think is a grandiose political statement or something. I think people in her position are part of the problem of the '1%'. Of course I can't tell her what to do with her money, but just because she buys 10 houses or whatever doesn't mean I agree with it. She's a rich popstar. She's talented. She's lovely, and I enjoy collecting merch for the most part. But placing celebrities on pedestals is exactly how Donald Trump is now the president. Celebrity culture should be fun, not unhealthy, but the line's pretty blurry for some apparently... (I don't want to take away the power from people who do find comfort in 'idolising' Taylor, I just think in general, our culture has normalised it far too much)
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Post by taytaytay on Aug 17, 2020 9:15:37 GMT -5
Sometimes I feel a bit stupid having admired so called heroes in my life. I guess I had to learn the hard way that it's not healthy to think these people are so great, so perfect, larger than life. Take Taylor for example. I admired her so much. I thought she was this perfect person. My apartment is filled with thousands of dollars of merch. But in reality merch is a stone cold business. Taylor's music is slowly going downhill. And as a person she now tries to represent ideologies I despise.I guess true heroes are "regular" people who act responsibly. Taylor is just a person who happens to be really good at writing songs and selling millions of records. Beyond this, there's no real reason to idolise her imo. Most people who know me, know me as the 'Taylor Swift girl', but I'm also open about my criticisms of her. It's been half a year since Miss Americana was released and I still don't feel like I've 'got' it. If the intention was a larger message, it should have been funded for that, but instead it's literally just a documentary about Taylor Swift that people apparently think is a grandiose political statement or something. I think people in her position are part of the problem of the '1%'. Of course I can't tell her what to do with her money, but just because she buys 10 houses or whatever doesn't mean I agree with it. She's a rich popstar. She's talented. She's lovely, and I enjoy collecting merch for the most part. But placing celebrities on pedestals is exactly how Donald Trump is now the president. Celebrity culture should be fun, not unhealthy, but the line's pretty blurry for some apparently... (I don't want to take away the power from people who do find comfort in 'idolising' Taylor, I just think in general, our culture has normalised it far too much) I really agree! I bought into the Miss Americana hype and then her actions haven't followed what she stated in that documentary. I think this has been a sharp wake up call for a lot of fans that they need to take her off the pedestal. I find fan communities, especially of Taylor, to be quite toxic in this way in that Taylor really really gets idolised rather than receiving any fair criticism.
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Post by SydneyPaige on Aug 17, 2020 10:12:47 GMT -5
Taylor is just a person who happens to be really good at writing songs and selling millions of records. Beyond this, there's no real reason to idolise her imo. Most people who know me, know me as the 'Taylor Swift girl', but I'm also open about my criticisms of her. It's been half a year since Miss Americana was released and I still don't feel like I've 'got' it. If the intention was a larger message, it should have been funded for that, but instead it's literally just a documentary about Taylor Swift that people apparently think is a grandiose political statement or something. I think people in her position are part of the problem of the '1%'. Of course I can't tell her what to do with her money, but just because she buys 10 houses or whatever doesn't mean I agree with it. She's a rich popstar. She's talented. She's lovely, and I enjoy collecting merch for the most part. But placing celebrities on pedestals is exactly how Donald Trump is now the president. Celebrity culture should be fun, not unhealthy, but the line's pretty blurry for some apparently... (I don't want to take away the power from people who do find comfort in 'idolising' Taylor, I just think in general, our culture has normalised it far too much) I really agree! I bought into the Miss Americana hype and then her actions haven't followed what she stated in that documentary. I think this has been a sharp wake up call for a lot of fans that they need to take her off the pedestal. I find fan communities, especially of Taylor, to be quite toxic in this way in that Taylor really really gets idolised rather than receiving any fair criticism. Also, Taylor has said multiple times that the idolization isn't healthy for her either. I mean it's inspiring to see someone reach such incredible feats but inspiring should be where the line ends. I can't imagine the pressure that gets put on celebrities when people are constantly saying things like "you saved my life". There's just no room for error which makes no sense because to err is human. It kind of reminds me of this Paramore song (and yes, before you say it, I CAN find a Paramore or Taylor song to fit every situation lol). People are people and everyone is bound to make mistakes or to let you down. No one is infallible.
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Post by Roman on Aug 17, 2020 14:10:23 GMT -5
Sometimes I feel a bit stupid having admired so called heroes in my life. I guess I had to learn the hard way that it's not healthy to think these people are so great, so perfect, larger than life. Take Taylor for example. I admired her so much. I thought she was this perfect person. My apartment is filled with thousands of dollars of merch. But in reality merch is a stone cold business. Taylor's music is slowly going downhill. And as a person she now tries to represent ideologies I despise.I guess true heroes are "regular" people who act responsibly. Taylor is just a person who happens to be really good at writing songs and selling millions of records. Beyond this, there's no real reason to idolise her imo. Most people who know me, know me as the 'Taylor Swift girl', but I'm also open about my criticisms of her. It's been half a year since Miss Americana was released and I still don't feel like I've 'got' it. If the intention was a larger message, it should have been funded for that, but instead it's literally just a documentary about Taylor Swift that people apparently think is a grandiose political statement or something. I think people in her position are part of the problem of the '1%'. Of course I can't tell her what to do with her money, but just because she buys 10 houses or whatever doesn't mean I agree with it. She's a rich popstar. She's talented. She's lovely, and I enjoy collecting merch for the most part. But placing celebrities on pedestals is exactly how Donald Trump is now the president. Celebrity culture should be fun, not unhealthy, but the line's pretty blurry for some apparently... (I don't want to take away the power from people who do find comfort in 'idolising' Taylor, I just think in general, our culture has normalised it far too much) When I got into Taylor, it meant a lot to me. Her music gave me such comfort and helped me feel things I thought died inside of me (or feelings I never had). At the time she was such a good person, at least to the outside world. It probably was a bit too powerful and I overdone it with the merch. I still am grateful for that time and I don’t regret most of the merch. Since then I changed a lot. I made a lot of progress, got a lot stronger and sort of have a life. Taylor also changed. Things got messy. I guess the combination made things very different and changed my perspective a lot. It’s probably good that things cooled down. I still like Taylor and will enjoy good songs she makes. I’m not sure if I will attend her shows again. I wasn’t too sad that Corona ruined the summer shows.
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Post by SomeFearlessChick on Aug 26, 2020 6:04:46 GMT -5
I thought Paper Rings was the first of Tay's songs to be Avril Lavigne-ish but I read something the other day that indicated Shake It Off also has her influence, and I agree, especially with the "my ex man brought his new gf" part. Maybe even WANEGBT. I also really like Avril Lavigne. I never 'let go' of Let Go. Her succeeding albums never matched it but even her "annoying" songs are just fun
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Post by SydneyPaige on Aug 26, 2020 9:39:02 GMT -5
I thought Paper Rings was the first of Tay's songs to be Avril Lavigne-ish but I read something the other day that indicated Shake It Off also has her influence, and I agree, especially with the "my ex man brought his new gf" part. Maybe even WANEGBT. I also really like Avril Lavigne. I never 'let go' of Let Go. Her succeeding albums never matched it but even her "annoying" songs are just fun I feel like I am the only person that finds Paper Rings to be borderline country-ish. I mean, there’s a washboard and I believe a banjo on the track. It kind of reminded me of the lumineers if it was to be compared to anything indie. I just idk, I hear that song and I hear more of Kacey Musgraves or something to that extent but it feels like everyone hears that song way differently than I do. Although now that I think of it I can definitely hear the influence“ Girlfriend” by Avril had on Shake It Off. I think it’s important when comparing someone to Avril to compare it by album cycles cause, similar to Taylor, Avril has changed her sound a lot.
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Post by shandimusic94 on Aug 26, 2020 12:32:01 GMT -5
I thought Paper Rings was the first of Tay's songs to be Avril Lavigne-ish but I read something the other day that indicated Shake It Off also has her influence, and I agree, especially with the "my ex man brought his new gf" part. Maybe even WANEGBT. I also really like Avril Lavigne. I never 'let go' of Let Go. Her succeeding albums never matched it but even her "annoying" songs are just fun I remember when WANEGBT first came out a lot of locals thought it was an Avril Lavigne song at first!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2020 12:47:21 GMT -5
Therapy is honestly a waste of time now. And money. It’s not even my therapist. It’s me. I don’t do anything she suggests. I hardly talk and if I do, it’s not the right way to describe how I’m feeling. Maybe there is no way. Maybe I’m stuck like this. Well, I can add being a failure to my list of things I’m good at along with crying everyday and putting myself down. I see why I’m alone and why nobody likes me or has any faith in me. Maybe there’s something in the cabinet I can overdose on. I’m tired and I’m done.
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Post by SydneyPaige on Dec 3, 2020 13:02:37 GMT -5
Therapy is honestly a waste of time now. And money. It’s not even my therapist. It’s me. I don’t do anything she suggests. I hardly talk and if I do, it’s not the right way to describe how I’m feeling. Maybe there is no way. Maybe I’m stuck like this. Well, I can add being a failure to my list of things I’m good at along with crying everyday and putting myself down. I see why I’m alone and why nobody likes me or has any faith in me. Maybe there’s something in the cabinet I can overdose on. I’m tired and I’m done. Laurie, listen to me, YOU ARE NOT A FAILURE. You may not be able to see it in front of you or hear it but your impact is much bigger than you could ever imagine. There are legions of people who care about you and if you’re hurting than so are all the people around you. I’ve had to learn the hard way this year that life is so much more precious than you could even imagine and even the bad days mean something. Also, if your therapy isn’t working for you than that’s okay too. Some doctors/therapists aren’t going to work for you and that’s okay. Sometimes you need to shop around and figure out what works for you. I know things are tough right now but think of it like a puzzle, you’re at the start and can’t find the edge pieces, but eventually you will, eventually you’ll be able to see the puzzle’s pictures. Believe that, you’re in the middle now but you will figure it out eventually. I believe in you!
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Post by oliviabenson(Taylor's Version) on Dec 3, 2020 15:25:31 GMT -5
Therapy is honestly a waste of time now. And money. It’s not even my therapist. It’s me. I don’t do anything she suggests. I hardly talk and if I do, it’s not the right way to describe how I’m feeling. Maybe there is no way. Maybe I’m stuck like this. Well, I can add being a failure to my list of things I’m good at along with crying everyday and putting myself down. I see why I’m alone and why nobody likes me or has any faith in me. Maybe there’s something in the cabinet I can overdose on. I’m tired and I’m done. Maybe it's just the wrong therapist for you, not every therapist can help everyone the same way, sometimes it's just not the right person. Or maybe it's the wrong type of therapy for you. I know from my own experience that different therapy types can have very different chances of success. I made the usual talk therapy for years, but it didn't helped, it was more the opposite of helping, because I always felt worse after it and I never did what they said I should do, then I tried hypnosetherapie and it helped much better. So maybe you shoud try another kind of therapy. I also can agree with everything that Sydney wrote.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2020 15:54:53 GMT -5
Nobody waste your breath on me because I don't care about what you're saying. I'm sick of this "Think about all the people who care about you!!!" b*llsh*t. Nobody does. If somebody did, I wouldn't feel like I do now. Besides that, they're more important than me? Okay then. I have been nothing but invisible and worthless to everyone I have ever met and I'm just sick of it. I'm so tired of caring so much about everyone and making them important to me and nobody ever does that for me. I'm tired of not being appreciated. Or wanted. Or needed. Or loved. Everyone has given up on me so now I'm giving up on everyone. If this dumba** year kills me it'll be a damn miracle.
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Post by SydneyPaige on Dec 3, 2020 17:34:02 GMT -5
Nobody waste your breath on me because I don't care about what you're saying. I'm sick of this "Think about all the people who care about you!!!" b*llsh*t. Nobody does. If somebody did, I wouldn't feel like I do now. Besides that, they're more important than me? Okay then. I have been nothing but invisible and worthless to everyone I have ever met and I'm just sick of it. I'm so tired of caring so much about everyone and making them important to me and nobody ever does that for me. I'm tired of not being appreciated. Or wanted. Or needed. Or loved. Everyone has given up on me so now I'm giving up on everyone. If this dumba** year kills me it'll be a damn miracle. And if you die what’s that going to solve? Seriously. Dying doesn’t solve anything. Doesn’t fix anything. You can give life meaning. You can change the way your life is. Life is long. Life is a journey and life is not supposed to be solved. Death is absolute. Death doesn’t change of fix. It just takes and take and takes and takes. One of my best friends died this year and I don’t know how she died, but she’s gone. All her death did was take someone I love away from me. All her death did was make me think incessantly about how her mother must have screamed when she found her dead on her porch. All it did was burn the memory of my other friend who just had a baby wail as she realized that her baby would never meet her aunt. All it did is have the echo of one of my other friends having an emotional breakdown cause she was talking to her about the future just days before and then there was no future. There is a hole that never gets filled when someone dies. It’s just emptiness where a person should be. So I know you think you’re alone but to be honest, if you killed yourself, I would be f*cling devastated, the same way I am right now.
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