Melanie Martinez and Timothy Heller

adding to some things, apparently Heller was attempting to discuss with Melanie fans. Some continue to complain how chill she was talking about it.


Now while I can resonate with the fact of being afraid and feeling someone doesn't believe you, when it hit me from my therapist that my online closie emotionally abused me, I had no issue with him getting in trouble. I wanted him to go to jail, I wanted something to happen to him because the pain I feel because of what happened to me, and it wasn't even rape. I don't even know how you can go "I dn't want her to get in trouble" YOU LITERALLY STARTED A SH*TSTORM ON HER. and if this really hurt you I just have a hard time with that as someone who went through above.


yea sex looks so hard for you to joke about.

Some have actually accused her of stealing a rape story off reddit, I won't go too far into that though.


this too


big log of proof which reiterates some other things.

also funny again for someone uncomfortable about sexual things, she retweets sexual jokes right on her main twitter.

She is a contradiction. and its hard. this regardless will always stain Melanie's career, real or fake.

certainly. I am just giving a full scope of reasonings people are claiming her story to be false if there's any new information. Some people respond to trauma in a sort of "robotic" fashion, a sort of emotional numbness. They reference her laughing but you can laugh in discomfort too. I am more looking closer at how she edited her captions on photos, changed her bio to promote her new song right after, contradictions in her statements vs. her actual actions, etc. rather than people speculating someone wouldn't do this if this. Though again, I say from my personal experience I have a hard time following you wouldn't go to the police because you care about her and don't want her to get in trouble after all this. I was afraid to go to the police, but because of things certainly not related to feeling this person is still loveable.

My personal experience IS with emotional manipulation, and I know how strong that is. Trust me there. Hence, to a degree I can understand, but at the same time, her logic feels odd considering I've experienced this and know once I REALIZED IT WAS EMOTIONAL MANIPULATION the outlook did change. It took a while of therapy to realize it WAS that, but when I came to it I certainly wasn't...this? And I have nothing against taking it to the police. With help from my own therapist, I DID report my abuser. Nothing happened to him whch devastated me, but I did report it. And it was terrifying for those sorts of reasons. Having someone not believe you, the idea if they did something they might make me testify, etc. A lot went through my head. But she is saying "I still love her and I don't want her to get in trouble." when everything she just did already got her in trouble. Why stop there? That threw me off for a big loop. I am not saying I believe Timothy Heller is completely lying, but her things aren't adding up. A lot of other victims have said how they did report their abusers or didn't in say fear but not quite of what is spoken of here. She also suggests she and Melanie do not talk at all anymore, which in this timeframe would have given her therapist time to pull her out of the web. I went through this process and to be frank if she is lying about it I will be just as disgusted as anyone else, because I experience emotional abuse and it was extremely painful. There is scars left on me now from it.

Now again, Timothy Heller has publicly said she has Borderline Personality Disorder. Now, normally I would be f*** that because it appears to stigmatize mental illness which I hate, but some other people who suffer from it made some very prominent points about what they may have to do with.
Say the part of the story saying how Melanie basically dropped her out of her life is accurate, the BPD comes out. It reimagines. This iteration she is giving while it may not be totally true, at this point in her mind, is very true to her. It could also be a manipulative revenge that can change later. People suffering from it suggested the BPD may be the reason she's told a possibly false story. In this scenario, as I said, Timothy should get no hatred or disgust or anything. If it is truly caused by her mental illness.

I think you are taking this too personally and it's clouding your opinion. You act as if Timothy should react to emotional manipulation the same as you. Your situation is different from what Timothy is accusing Melanie of.

I don't know about her BPD so I won't comment on that.

you are suggesting emotional manipulation plays a big part which there is a good possibility it does, but I am also saying here and now, she says her therapist was part of her telling her story on twitter, my therapist recommended I tell my story to the police, not put it on twitter.
As said, will Melanie ever truly be free of the stain on her career? No. Certainly not. If this is never taken to a court or anything, there will always be that part questioning who told the truth those days. Do I think Timothy's story lines up? Honestly there is a lot of issues with what she said in her statement vs. her actions and what some people know as their experience. Now maybe it does somewhat cloud my or anyone else who's been assaulted or harassed in any ways judgment, but considering I am not the only one who's mentioned having issues with what she said vs. how it is playing out when it comes to past things, I am not sure my judgment is clouded as much as I originally thought perhaps. There is actual rape victims who don't understand some of the contradictions, and have stated it. I responded in that way to make it clear to anyone reading if you feel you've been harassed you absolutely have the right to take it up with someone. But I am telling you right now no therapist would suggest taking it to twitter, they'd help her report it to the police. That is what my therapist did, she helped me soundly tell my story, put what information I had together, and report him to the police. She said if nothing else, it would help me regain power over my own life and also leave a paper trail if he ever tried to hurt me in any way again.

I want to put this here as someone made some fairly neutral statements. They covered some odd holes in Timothy's story but also covered how former friends and workers of Melanie said the fame changed her a bit. I feel it is a fairly neutral video that will help anyone think for themselves a little on the matter. In the idea of Melanie pressuring her to consent, I still don't feel good about it. I do not feel anyone should be pressured into something like this, and a similar shame could probably be felt from being pressured and regretting it, because while you said yes your heart wanted to say no.