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Post by TaylorSwiftFan on Apr 13, 2021 0:59:47 GMT -5
A thread for the last re-recorded album to be released. It is the one we have to wait the longest for. She can start recording it in November 2022 I believe. When do we think she will release it then? March 2023 or something?
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Post by taryn on Apr 17, 2021 0:40:32 GMT -5
can you IMAGINE the vault songs that could come out of this re-recording?
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Post by SydneyPaige on Apr 17, 2021 11:57:13 GMT -5
I was just thinking about the re-recording this morning while watching clips from Miss Americana. I'm just thinking about how sentimental it'll be re-recording an album that talks about her falling in love with Joe after she'd been with him for 6 years. Especially when most of her exes made her feel like she was too much work to be with just, my heart is melting!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2021 20:02:20 GMT -5
As everyone may know I live and die upon the hill of Reputation. I do wonder if she'd expand the eras a bit to try and push them all the way until Reputation can BE re-recorded.
I am hype for this though.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2021 13:24:38 GMT -5
I was thinking it might be cute if she adds a laugh after “I’m sorry, but the old Taylor can’t come to the phone right now. Why? Oh! ‘Cause she’s dead.” since with the re-recordings, all of the old Taylors are being resurrected.
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Post by Roman on Apr 24, 2021 3:27:39 GMT -5
Considering how new this album is, this will probably be the last of the re-recordings. There’s a lot to work on. It’s a good opportunity to bring her worst album up to the normal standard.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2021 10:22:49 GMT -5
Considering how new this album is, this will probably be the last of the re-recordings. There’s a lot to work on. It’s a good opportunity to bring her worst album up to the normal standard. I am hoping she'll fix 1989 since we're going at that. I don't think what you dislike about Reputation (lyrics, etc.) is necessarily fixable in a re-recording. Contrary, I hope she keeps a lot of the elements of Reputation because it is one of my top Taylor albums still and an era I regret getting rid of my merch from.
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Post by Roman on Apr 24, 2021 11:07:45 GMT -5
Considering how new this album is, this will probably be the last of the re-recordings. There’s a lot to work on. It’s a good opportunity to bring her worst album up to the normal standard. I am hoping she'll fix 1989 since we're going at that. I don't think what you dislike about Reputation (lyrics, etc.) is necessarily fixable in a re-recording. Contrary, I hope she keeps a lot of the elements of Reputation because it is one of my top Taylor albums still and an era I regret getting rid of my merch from. I would already be happy if she fixes some of the horrendous instrumental sounds. And I'm praying to God that she won't mess up Don't Blame Me. She still owes us a music video for that one!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2021 15:04:56 GMT -5
Considering how new this album is, this will probably be the last of the re-recordings. There’s a lot to work on. It’s a good opportunity to bring her worst album up to the normal standard. Me trying to respect your opinion and not go off It sounds like some of the "fixes" you would like to hear would just about make reputation (TV) a completely different album. While that would make you, and others that don't like this album for some strange strange reason, happy, then she wouldn't really own reputation!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2021 15:10:01 GMT -5
This was a thought I had at 3am: Will Gorgeous have the original recording of James saying "gorgeous" or will she re-record her part???
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Post by SydneyPaige on Apr 24, 2021 17:43:31 GMT -5
This was a thought I had at 3am: Will Gorgeous have the original recording of James saying "gorgeous" or will she re-record her part??? James is probably too old to sound baby-ish now. Maybe she'll let Inez do it (Betty probably will be too young to say Gorgeous when Rep is re-recorded).
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2021 20:45:17 GMT -5
I am hoping she'll fix 1989 since we're going at that. I don't think what you dislike about Reputation (lyrics, etc.) is necessarily fixable in a re-recording. Contrary, I hope she keeps a lot of the elements of Reputation because it is one of my top Taylor albums still and an era I regret getting rid of my merch from. I would already be happy if she fixes some of the horrendous instrumental sounds. And I'm praying to God that she won't mess up Don't Blame Me. She still owes us a music video for that one! I am assuming you refer to some of the EDM electronic drops that I love for the attitude of the album? I don't think another 5000 word defense will change anyone's mind but I will die on the hill that Reputation is an amazing body of work and very iconic of the time period she was in. Lover was such a downgrade compared to the sheer force that Reputation was. I will say Lover was bad enough that suddenly 1989 felt like a warm blanket. I send Lover to some scale into an abyss incomparable to all her other bodies of work.
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Post by Roman on Apr 26, 2021 0:53:13 GMT -5
I would already be happy if she fixes some of the horrendous instrumental sounds. And I'm praying to God that she won't mess up Don't Blame Me. She still owes us a music video for that one! I am assuming you refer to some of the EDM electronic drops that I love for the attitude of the album? I don't think another 5000 word defense will change anyone's mind but I will die on the hill that Reputation is an amazing body of work and very iconic of the time period she was in. Lover was such a downgrade compared to the sheer force that Reputation was. I will say Lover was bad enough that suddenly 1989 felt like a warm blanket. I send Lover to some scale into an abyss incomparable to all her other bodies of work. There are so many misses on reputation. I agree that she shouldn’t completely change the album. That’s pointless. Might as well erase it then. But from sloppy rhymes to the duck sound of the saxophone in False God, there’s a lot of little things she could improve. From 1989 to reputation it was like bungee jumping without a line. 1989 was such a beautiful magical era. Taylor was positive, motivated, happy. The stars aligned in everything. Reputation was the opposite. Taylor was exhausted, uninspired, bitter and vengeful. She felt forced to make a new “different” album. The combination of “everyone did me wrong, but look at me pretending I’m okay because I have a new man”, is beyond cringy. There... I said it. As far as Lover goes. It’s a bit of a weird one. I was relieved that it sounded a lot better than reputation. It has some really good songs. But a lot of it is easy to forget. It’s more like a transitional album. Folklore and evermore are more Taylor style again. But to be honest they haven’t captured me yet. The excitement for the re-recording of Fearless shows that something went off track after 1989 and it hasn’t come back. In Taylor’s defense: with 1989 she reached the top of her career, the top of the music world. Mentally that’s really difficult. Taylor didn’t handle it well and didn’t take her time to recover. That’s still a problem.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2021 8:55:12 GMT -5
I am assuming you refer to some of the EDM electronic drops that I love for the attitude of the album? I don't think another 5000 word defense will change anyone's mind but I will die on the hill that Reputation is an amazing body of work and very iconic of the time period she was in. Lover was such a downgrade compared to the sheer force that Reputation was. I will say Lover was bad enough that suddenly 1989 felt like a warm blanket. I send Lover to some scale into an abyss incomparable to all her other bodies of work. There are so many misses on reputation. I agree that she shouldn’t completely change the album. That’s pointless. Might as well erase it then. But from sloppy rhymes to the duck sound of the saxophone in False God, there’s a lot of little things she could improve. From 1989 to reputation it was like bungee jumping without a line. 1989 was such a beautiful magical era. Taylor was positive, motivated, happy. The stars aligned in everything. Reputation was the opposite. Taylor was exhausted, uninspired, bitter and vengeful. She felt forced to make a new “different” album. The combination of “everyone did me wrong, but look at me pretending I’m okay because I have a new man”, is beyond cringy. There... I said it. As far as Lover goes. It’s a bit of a weird one. I was relieved that it sounded a lot better than reputation. It has some really good songs. But a lot of it is easy to forget. It’s more like a transitional album. Folklore and evermore are more Taylor style again. But to be honest they haven’t captured me yet. The excitement for the re-recording of Fearless shows that something went off track after 1989 and it hasn’t come back. In Taylor’s defense: with 1989 she reached the top of her career, the top of the music world. Mentally that’s really difficult. Taylor didn’t handle it well and didn’t take her time to recover. That’s still a problem. Alright gotta argue with you here. Upon release of the Miss Americana documentary, I think it was very clear 1989 was a facade and Taylor WAS NOT TRULY HAPPY. I strongly, STRONGLY disagree 1989 being a "magnum opus" for Taylor. It is when a lot of her haters began acting like her fans, after years of her real fans getting trashed when they said they enjoyed Taylor Swift. Some of her poorest songwriting in "Shake It Off" was panned off as an amazing hit. I did not find 1989 to be "magical" whatsoever. I grew up with Taylor Swift. I thought 1989 was a mask and I got HATED on by fans and called a fake fan because I didn't like 1989 and I thought she was wearing a mask to hide how painful the sort of stuff that filled the Red era was, controversies of her love life and being America's favorite past time to trash and be considered an example of being a sl*t. 1989 is far inferior lyrically to any of her past work outside maybe 1 or 2 songs generally. Lover is the most inferior in lyrical quality to be clear, but 1989 was definitely her trying way too hard to follow trends, break the narrative against her, to the expense of her happiness. She has even discussed in later interviews part of her girl squad and all that was trying to prove she could be fine without a man. Why did their opinions matter anyway? She also developed an eating disorder and said at the time she felt it rewarding that when she got off the stage she felt like she was going to pass out. All her working out while eating very little. Some mentioned feeling she was getting too thin and these fans were written off also or told she was shedding her "baby weight". I will never feel 1989 was magical, if anything, 1989 destroyed everything about who she was before. She of course will never remain exactly the same, but the shift here was not authentically built. It was like going from Reputation to Lover, when in Lover interviews it was clear she was still quite bitter. The "snake" had in fact not turned to butterflies yet. Taylor was bitter and vengeful because after sacrificing half of herself to meet their requirements, they still destroyed her stoned her and despised her. People who jumped on the 1989 wagon, as with many popstars of the modern era, one bad controversy and they are back to hating you. She had every right to be bitter. Reputation I do not agree was uninspired. It was inspired by a narrative people painted of her vs. finding the right things in the midst of the chaos. You have to actually listen to it from the lens of how everyone made her out to be vs. the fact she is not that person. I was very excited for Lover given the pre-album singles. I was disappointed when those ended up being about the only thing I enjoyed. I really only revisit Miss Americana & The Heartbreak Prince and It's Nice to Have a Friend regularly. The album is terrible lyrically. London Boy and I Think He Knows are some of the most immature songs I have ever heard her write. As said, it made 1989 a warm blanket in comparison. I feel she came back way too soon and was still too influenced by what people in media and haters expected of her. And to me it shows because what came out authentically in Folklore and Evermore still carried some of that ache, struggle. But it also carried authentically the good parts. Evermore is the best album she has done lyrically since Red. I think so many just want her to do more dance pop upbeat stuff but that was never what made Taylor Swift. She wrote songs about boys. She wrote all those emotions. The excitement for Fearless is an old fan like me who feels thrilled to relive an album that meant the world to me when it came out. It was my first full Taylor era. And many songs that got me through my worst heartbreaks are on it. If anything, I think Folklore and Evermore have regathered her fanbase. When I sold my merch during Lover, I was lucky to sell some of it as I didn't have a lot of buyers, even for my rarer items. Because I think a lot of people felt like they were done with her. Since Folklore's release and this stuff, I've noticed her pre-owned merch going UP in price again, some items even doubled. Reputation merch now being appreciated. but the lowest priced merch comes from Lover. I wonder why? I notice more people appreciate Reputation a bit more in hindsight of what it was. I had felt that anger of the expectations, the judgment, and the hurt of just growing. That these jerks build a narrative about you based on one or two things and suddenly everyone's running with it and you lose any control. I relate to that album in such a way from that standpoint and I do believe that is why I so strongly defend it, not because it is genuinely her best work (her best lyrical content was long before Reputation and came long after it) but what the era stood for, what the songs stood for, what it meant. I see the emotional artistry behind it. 1989 was her "magnum opus" attempt at trying to fix everything they said was wrong with RED at the grammys (lack of cohesion, etc.) and the era itself was Taylor trying to mold herself like clay into what made everyone happy. At the expense of her own happiness. I will always despise 1989 era for that. As much as I do all the "I'm too immature to understand 1989" comments I received while being called a fake fan, by people who hadn't been listening to Taylor since they were 9-10 years old like I had. I literally grew up with her, I didn't follow a trend here. I followed Taylor the least when it seemed she put her real authenticity on hold while trying to make people who hated her happy. Now for reaching the top of her career. I kind of disagree with that. I actually think RED was the top, 1989 was the carried cap and during 1989 she began to slowly fall off because the overexposure in coverage and attention that began during RED. During RED you suddenly heard Taylor on every radio station, then during 1989 it continued and slowly fell off before Reputation everyone was tired of her, making negative crap about her, trying to say her tour was doing poorly when it became one of the highest grossing tours, etc. and she has not fully recaptured the peak that fell off, but in a sense no artist truly does and considering the level of pain she was in to be at that peak, I kind of hope she lulls out and sticks to her guns and to her real audience, in the vein of Paul McCartney writing "silly love songs" about the fact people complained all he wrote was silly love songs. I would maybe agree 1989 was where the absolute peak occurred before the stunning downfall. Anyway, this became one of my essays. Carry on everyone.
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Post by Roman on Apr 26, 2021 9:56:24 GMT -5
There are so many misses on reputation. I agree that she shouldn’t completely change the album. That’s pointless. Might as well erase it then. But from sloppy rhymes to the duck sound of the saxophone in False God, there’s a lot of little things she could improve. From 1989 to reputation it was like bungee jumping without a line. 1989 was such a beautiful magical era. Taylor was positive, motivated, happy. The stars aligned in everything. Reputation was the opposite. Taylor was exhausted, uninspired, bitter and vengeful. She felt forced to make a new “different” album. The combination of “everyone did me wrong, but look at me pretending I’m okay because I have a new man”, is beyond cringy. There... I said it. As far as Lover goes. It’s a bit of a weird one. I was relieved that it sounded a lot better than reputation. It has some really good songs. But a lot of it is easy to forget. It’s more like a transitional album. Folklore and evermore are more Taylor style again. But to be honest they haven’t captured me yet. The excitement for the re-recording of Fearless shows that something went off track after 1989 and it hasn’t come back. In Taylor’s defense: with 1989 she reached the top of her career, the top of the music world. Mentally that’s really difficult. Taylor didn’t handle it well and didn’t take her time to recover. That’s still a problem. Alright gotta argue with you here. Upon release of the Miss Americana documentary, I think it was very clear 1989 was a facade and Taylor WAS NOT TRULY HAPPY. I strongly, STRONGLY disagree 1989 being a "magnum opus" for Taylor. It is when a lot of her haters began acting like her fans, after years of her real fans getting trashed when they said they enjoyed Taylor Swift. Some of her poorest songwriting in "Shake It Off" was panned off as an amazing hit. I did not find 1989 to be "magical" whatsoever. I grew up with Taylor Swift. I thought 1989 was a mask and I got HATED on by fans and called a fake fan because I didn't like 1989 and I thought she was wearing a mask to hide how painful the sort of stuff that filled the Red era was, controversies of her love life and being America's favorite past time to trash and be considered an example of being a sl*t. 1989 is far inferior lyrically to any of her past work outside maybe 1 or 2 songs generally. Lover is the most inferior in lyrical quality to be clear, but 1989 was definitely her trying way too hard to follow trends, break the narrative against her, to the expense of her happiness. She has even discussed in later interviews part of her girl squad and all that was trying to prove she could be fine without a man. Why did their opinions matter anyway? She also developed an eating disorder and said at the time she felt it rewarding that when she got off the stage she felt like she was going to pass out. All her working out while eating very little. Some mentioned feeling she was getting too thin and these fans were written off also or told she was shedding her "baby weight". I will never feel 1989 was magical, if anything, 1989 destroyed everything about who she was before. She of course will never remain exactly the same, but the shift here was not authentically built. It was like going from Reputation to Lover, when in Lover interviews it was clear she was still quite bitter. The "snake" had in fact not turned to butterflies yet. Taylor was bitter and vengeful because after sacrificing half of herself to meet their requirements, they still destroyed her stoned her and despised her. People who jumped on the 1989 wagon, as with many popstars of the modern era, one bad controversy and they are back to hating you. She had every right to be bitter. Reputation I do not agree was uninspired. It was inspired by a narrative people painted of her vs. finding the right things in the midst of the chaos. You have to actually listen to it from the lens of how everyone made her out to be vs. the fact she is not that person. I was very excited for Lover given the pre-album singles. I was disappointed when those ended up being about the only thing I enjoyed. I really only revisit Miss Americana & The Heartbreak Prince and It's Nice to Have a Friend regularly. The album is terrible lyrically. London Boy and I Think He Knows are some of the most immature songs I have ever heard her write. As said, it made 1989 a warm blanket in comparison. I feel she came back way too soon and was still too influenced by what people in media and haters expected of her. And to me it shows because what came out authentically in Folklore and Evermore still carried some of that ache, struggle. But it also carried authentically the good parts. Evermore is the best album she has done lyrically since Red. I think so many just want her to do more dance pop upbeat stuff but that was never what made Taylor Swift. She wrote songs about boys. She wrote all those emotions. The excitement for Fearless is an old fan like me who feels thrilled to relive an album that meant the world to me when it came out. It was my first full Taylor era. And many songs that got me through my worst heartbreaks are on it. If anything, I think Folklore and Evermore have regathered her fanbase. When I sold my merch during Lover, I was lucky to sell some of it as I didn't have a lot of buyers, even for my rarer items. Because I think a lot of people felt like they were done with her. Since Folklore's release and this stuff, I've noticed her pre-owned merch going UP in price again, some items even doubled. Reputation merch now being appreciated. but the lowest priced merch comes from Lover. I wonder why? I notice more people appreciate Reputation a bit more in hindsight of what it was. I had felt that anger of the expectations, the judgment, and the hurt of just growing. That these jerks build a narrative about you based on one or two things and suddenly everyone's running with it and you lose any control. I relate to that album in such a way from that standpoint and I do believe that is why I so strongly defend it, not because it is genuinely her best work (her best lyrical content was long before Reputation and came long after it) but what the era stood for, what the songs stood for, what it meant. I see the emotional artistry behind it. 1989 was her "magnum opus" attempt at trying to fix everything they said was wrong with RED at the grammys (lack of cohesion, etc.) and the era itself was Taylor trying to mold herself like clay into what made everyone happy. At the expense of her own happiness. I will always despise 1989 era for that. As much as I do all the "I'm too immature to understand 1989" comments I received while being called a fake fan, by people who hadn't been listening to Taylor since they were 9-10 years old like I had. I literally grew up with her, I didn't follow a trend here. I followed Taylor the least when it seemed she put her real authenticity on hold while trying to make people who hated her happy. Now for reaching the top of her career. I kind of disagree with that. I actually think RED was the top, 1989 was the carried cap and during 1989 she began to slowly fall off because the overexposure in coverage and attention that began during RED. During RED you suddenly heard Taylor on every radio station, then during 1989 it continued and slowly fell off before Reputation everyone was tired of her, making negative crap about her, trying to say her tour was doing poorly when it became one of the highest grossing tours, etc. and she has not fully recaptured the peak that fell off, but in a sense no artist truly does and considering the level of pain she was in to be at that peak, I kind of hope she lulls out and sticks to her guns and to her real audience, in the vein of Paul McCartney writing "silly love songs" about the fact people complained all he wrote was silly love songs. I would maybe agree 1989 was where the absolute peak occurred before the stunning downfall. Anyway, this became one of my essays. Carry on everyone. Yeah, pretty much 5000 words First I want to start off by saying you have every right to love reputation personally. Good for you if you like it and can relate. I also agree that Red is her best album. The reason why I called 1989 the top, is because she expanded her flawless music to a much bigger audience with that. She was already going towards pop and succeeded to win over that genre with 1989. The 1989 era was great. You can see how much Taylor enjoyed it in interviews, in performances, interacting with fans. Of course it wasn’t 100% perfect. She got carried away with hanging out with supermodels. It didn’t affect her at the time. But in retrospect it wasn’t the smartest thing to do. She also didn’t lose the wish of finding love. Being single was only fine for a while. After 1989 there was nowhere to go. Taylor fell in a hole. I saw her live for 1989 and reputation. It was like day and night. It was painful to see she lost her joy and lightness in performing. She’s still busy recovering from that. All the drama she created since then is very disingenuous. That’s my main objection: she’s using her personal problems to make excuses, blame others and behave irrationally. The fake part is in what she’s doing now, not the 1989 era (or before). Look at how she’s totally astranged from reality and her fans nowadays. Ironically she has become the person the media criticized her for in the past.
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