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Post by Roman on Feb 9, 2023 10:06:14 GMT -5
The gender pay gap is a hoax tbh. There’s definitely difference in pay between people, even people who do the same job, but it’s not based on gender. Pay differences are based on age, skills, experience, how many hours you work, negotiation, type of contract, how many years you are within a company, knowing the boss. It's proven that (at least in Germany) woman earn much less then men, there are statistics about it, it's not a hoax. And like Chantel said, it's even for women without children and women who'll never have children, so it's not okay. And I don't know how it is in other countries, but here the parents can decide if the mother or the father takes 3 years of parental leave. And because of th much less payment women also get much less money when they're old and don't work anymore. The gender pay gap is a made up lie to play the victim card. Spineless people, mostly politicians, get behind it to show their political correctness. It’s an attempt to promote equality of outcome instead of equality of opportunity. They base it on statistical differences in pay, without looking at the actual causes. It’s bad for women and men. Women get handed the victim card without telling them the truth about pay differences. Men get accused of being privileged based on their gender. That’s appalling. Both women and men can be affected by unfair pay. It’s not because of their gender, but because of the reasons I stated above. You can notice it whenever it’s discussed publicly. No one can come up with an actual example of women and men getting paid differently simply based on their gender. They always say: “oh look, they both have the same job (title), but they get paid differently”. That’s a very simplistic and wrong way of looking at it. Everyone living in the real world can confirm that they (probably) make a different amount of money than their co-workers. There are many causes, gender is not one of them. |
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Post by chantel on Feb 9, 2023 11:22:27 GMT -5
The gender pay gap is a hoax tbh. There’s definitely difference in pay between people, even people who do the same job, but it’s not based on gender. Pay differences are based on age, skills, experience, how many hours you work, negotiation, type of contract, how many years you are within a company, knowing the boss. It's proven that (at least in Germany) woman earn much less then men, there are statistics about it, it's not a hoax. And like Chantel said, it's even for women without children and women who'll never have children, so it's not okay. And I don't know how it is in other countries, but here the parents can decide if the mother or the father takes 3 years of parental leave. And because of th much less payment women also get much less money when they're old and don't work anymore. Countries that offer both parents parental leave is interesting for this conversation. The way society view dads and moms are clearly different. The bar is lower for men. Dads can do the bare minimum and get praised. I can see an employer thinking "let's give this man a raise. He has a family to take care of" while an employer would view the mom as not career driven and hold the lack of experience she isn't getting at work due to maternity leave against her |
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Post by sharonlovestaylor on Feb 9, 2023 12:17:32 GMT -5
It's proven that (at least in Germany) woman earn much less then men, there are statistics about it, it's not a hoax. And like Chantel said, it's even for women without children and women who'll never have children, so it's not okay. And I don't know how it is in other countries, but here the parents can decide if the mother or the father takes 3 years of parental leave. And because of th much less payment women also get much less money when they're old and don't work anymore. Countries that offer both parents parental leave is interesting for this conversation. The way society view dads and moms are clearly different. The bar is lower for men. Dads can do the bare minimum and get praised. I can see an employer thinking "let's give this man a raise. He has a family to take care of" while an employer would view the mom as not career driven and hold the lack of experience she isn't getting at work due to maternity leave against her My husband's company gave him family leave time when my daughter was born but now he's with a new company and they don't offer it . So because he gets lots of sick time he's taking some of that so he can be there when the twins are born. |
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Post by Roman on Feb 9, 2023 12:33:20 GMT -5
It's proven that (at least in Germany) woman earn much less then men, there are statistics about it, it's not a hoax. And like Chantel said, it's even for women without children and women who'll never have children, so it's not okay. And I don't know how it is in other countries, but here the parents can decide if the mother or the father takes 3 years of parental leave. And because of th much less payment women also get much less money when they're old and don't work anymore. Countries that offer both parents parental leave is interesting for this conversation. The way society view dads and moms are clearly different. The bar is lower for men. Dads can do the bare minimum and get praised. I can see an employer thinking "let's give this man a raise. He has a family to take care of" while an employer would view the mom as not career driven and hold the lack of experience she isn't getting at work due to maternity leave against her From an employer’s standpoint it’s mostly stone cold calculation. Maternity leave is lost money. Recently more and more men are focusing on paternity leave. There are even talks to give fathers a couple of months off too. Career wise that will be held against them. Corporations will not be happy with those expenses. Over here many couples work four days a week. Both the man and the woman have one day off to take care of the kid(s). Employers don’t like that either. Especially if you want a big career, working less is viewed as having the wrong priorities. That’s independent of gender. Perhaps it will be held against men even harder. Personally I think parents spending more time with their kids is great. It’s logical that for the woman it’s not optional. Child birth takes its toll and the baby is highly dependent on its mother. |
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Post by oliviabenson(Taylor's Version) on Feb 9, 2023 15:18:08 GMT -5
It's proven that (at least in Germany) woman earn much less then men, there are statistics about it, it's not a hoax. And like Chantel said, it's even for women without children and women who'll never have children, so it's not okay. And I don't know how it is in other countries, but here the parents can decide if the mother or the father takes 3 years of parental leave. And because of th much less payment women also get much less money when they're old and don't work anymore. The gender pay gap is a made up lie to play the victim card. Spineless people, mostly politicians, get behind it to show their political correctness. It’s an attempt to promote equality of outcome instead of equality of opportunity. They base it on statistical differences in pay, without looking at the actual causes. It’s bad for women and men. Women get handed the victim card without telling them the truth about pay differences. Men get accused of being privileged based on their gender. That’s appalling. Both women and men can be affected by unfair pay. It’s not because of their gender, but because of the reasons I stated above. You can notice it whenever it’s discussed publicly. No one can come up with an actual example of women and men getting paid differently simply based on their gender. They always say: “oh look, they both have the same job (title), but they get paid differently”. That’s a very simplistic and wrong way of looking at it. Everyone living in the real world can confirm that they (probably) make a different amount of money than their co-workers. There are many causes, gender is not one of them. My mother once was the head of a small team that, besides her) only consisted of men, but her salary was lower than the salary of most of the others, but she was the head of the team. |
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Post by Roman on Feb 9, 2023 15:53:30 GMT -5
The gender pay gap is a made up lie to play the victim card. Spineless people, mostly politicians, get behind it to show their political correctness. It’s an attempt to promote equality of outcome instead of equality of opportunity. They base it on statistical differences in pay, without looking at the actual causes. It’s bad for women and men. Women get handed the victim card without telling them the truth about pay differences. Men get accused of being privileged based on their gender. That’s appalling. Both women and men can be affected by unfair pay. It’s not because of their gender, but because of the reasons I stated above. You can notice it whenever it’s discussed publicly. No one can come up with an actual example of women and men getting paid differently simply based on their gender. They always say: “oh look, they both have the same job (title), but they get paid differently”. That’s a very simplistic and wrong way of looking at it. Everyone living in the real world can confirm that they (probably) make a different amount of money than their co-workers. There are many causes, gender is not one of them. My mother once was the head of a small team that, besides her) only consisted of men, but her salary was lower than the salary of most of the others, but she was the head of the team. I don’t know the details about that situation with your mother. But it’s common that women are too agreeable and don’t negotiate a fair salary. Also sometimes people are named head of a team without more pay. I experienced that too in some workplaces. They simply pick people because they are loyal and responsible. They’re taken advantage of. Also one example doesn’t mean there’s a structural problem. And don’t get me wrong. Workplaces are snake pits. There’s definitely injustice and even discrimination. But there’s no correlation between gender and difference in pay. |
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Post by TimeOfMyLife on Feb 22, 2023 7:48:34 GMT -5
My mother once was the head of a small team that, besides her) only consisted of men, but her salary was lower than the salary of most of the others, but she was the head of the team. I don’t know the details about that situation with your mother. But it’s common that women are too agreeable and don’t negotiate a fair salary. Also sometimes people are named head of a team without more pay. I experienced that too in some workplaces. They simply pick people because they are loyal and responsible. They’re taken advantage of. Also one example doesn’t mean there’s a structural problem. And don’t get me wrong. Workplaces are snake pits. There’s definitely injustice and even discrimination. But there’s no correlation between gender and difference in pay. Companies should have a bigger role in fair salary. Maybe men have some advantages on average (less agreeable with negotiating), but they should give people with the same function also the same salary, at least close to each other. It's a fact that in a lot of companies men earn more than women, regardless age, experience etc. Some differences will always stay, but the gap could be smaller. |
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Post by sharonlovestaylor on Feb 22, 2023 12:23:37 GMT -5
If they do the exact same job men and women should get the same pay!
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Post by sharonlovestaylor on Feb 22, 2023 12:25:43 GMT -5
Plastic bags should all be recyclable!
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Post by ohiotaylorswiftfan on Feb 22, 2023 12:34:05 GMT -5
Plastic bags should all be recyclable! I read in the newspaper that in some states Walmart is beginning to charge a fee for each plastic bag a customer uses. |
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Post by sharonlovestaylor on Feb 22, 2023 12:37:51 GMT -5
Plastic bags should all be recyclable! I read in the newspaper that in some states Walmart is beginning to charge a fee for each plastic bag a customer uses. Our Walmart does that! Here in California almost all stores charge 10cents a bag. |
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Post by ohiotaylorswiftfan on Feb 22, 2023 12:40:31 GMT -5
I read in the newspaper that in some states Walmart is beginning to charge a fee for each plastic bag a customer uses. Our Walmart does that! Here in California almost all stores charge 10cents a bag. How do they control how many bags each customer uses, especially in the self-checkout lanes? |
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Post by SydneyPaige on Feb 22, 2023 13:11:08 GMT -5
Our Walmart does that! Here in California almost all stores charge 10cents a bag. How do they control how many bags each customer uses, especially in the self-checkout lanes? It is WILD to me that there are states that don't charge for plastic. Canada is getting rid of plastic bags completely now. My work is officially getting rid of them on March 2nd. |
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Post by ohiotaylorswiftfan on Feb 22, 2023 13:24:47 GMT -5
How do they control how many bags each customer uses, especially in the self-checkout lanes? It is WILD to me that there are states that don't charge for plastic. Canada is getting rid of plastic bags completely now. My work is officially getting rid of them on March 2nd. As of now there are just a few states where there is a charge. I haven't heard of any states enacting a ban on plastic bags. I wish they would. Unfortunately environmentalism is not a popular cause with a lot of our citizens. |
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Post by SydneyPaige on Feb 22, 2023 13:29:59 GMT -5
It is WILD to me that there are states that don't charge for plastic. Canada is getting rid of plastic bags completely now. My work is officially getting rid of them on March 2nd. As of now there are just a few states where there is a charge. I haven't heard of any states enacting a ban on plastic bags. I wish they would. Unfortunately environmentalism is not a popular cause with a lot of our citizens. We've been charging for plastic since like 1999. That's mostly grocery stores though and it's 5 cents for plastic (which is being banned) and 10 cents for paper and we have like lower quality fabric bags that are around 30 cents. My store hasn't charged for plastic since the start of COVID but we're kind of a rare exceptions. Other stores in our chain went back to charging after a few months. I think we just figured that since we were getting rid of them anyways there was no point in charging. |
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