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Post by taytaytay on Dec 8, 2020 16:27:14 GMT -5
Well just to add to the joys of 2020, I'm now suffering from stress induced hair loss and have lost about half my hair in the past month. You have to love 2020 don't you?
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Post by SydneyPaige on Dec 8, 2020 18:26:04 GMT -5
Well just to add to the joys of 2020, I'm now suffering from stress induced hair loss and have lost about half my hair in the past month. You have to love 2020 don't you? I’m sorry to hear that Emma.
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Post by patrick04 on Dec 10, 2020 10:38:55 GMT -5
SO Just checked my Bank Account its been Hacked. 4 payments pending from Amazon.com market place luckly all done todays date my bank looking into it Nighmare.
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Post by chantel on Dec 14, 2020 12:02:10 GMT -5
My cousin uses the laundry room every single day. My mom and I only use it like twice a week but with my cousin using it everyday it becomes annoying. I thought it would be a good idea to make a laundry schedule and she said she was cool with that. It's been 3 weeks since I started the schedule and she's still in there everyday.
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Post by taytaytay on Dec 19, 2020 11:47:49 GMT -5
I! HATE! LOCKDOWN!!
It's looking likely that we're going into permanent lockdown in the UK until at least the end of January, potentially longer. I won't have seen my friends in a year or my nephews in over a year. I'm sick of this. I'm going to do the right thing obviously, but I'm just tired of missing out on life because of the incompetence of our 'leaders'.
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Post by Roman on Dec 19, 2020 14:09:14 GMT -5
I! HATE! LOCKDOWN!! It's looking likely that we're going into permanent lockdown in the UK until at least the end of January, potentially longer. I won't have seen my friends in a year or my nephews in over a year. I'm sick of this. I'm going to do the right thing obviously, but I'm just tired of missing out on life because of the incompetence of our 'leaders'. It’s not good of course. But I don’t think you can blame the leaders that much. The virus is hard to contain. Sure, some things could’ve been handled better. But hardly any country has been successful in battling the virus. Predominantly that’s because of the behavior of people. It’s terrible that even hard lockdowns only work moderately because too many people refuse to protect themselves and others.
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Post by taytaytay on Dec 19, 2020 14:27:30 GMT -5
I! HATE! LOCKDOWN!! It's looking likely that we're going into permanent lockdown in the UK until at least the end of January, potentially longer. I won't have seen my friends in a year or my nephews in over a year. I'm sick of this. I'm going to do the right thing obviously, but I'm just tired of missing out on life because of the incompetence of our 'leaders'. It’s not good of course. But I don’t think you can blame the leaders that much. The virus is hard to contain. Sure, some things could’ve been handled better. But hardly any country has been successful in battling the virus. Predominantly that’s because of the behavior of people. It’s terrible that even hard lockdowns only work moderately because too many people refuse to protect themselves and others. It's more the fact that in the UK we were told that we could travel 22-27th December, so lots of people were understandably taking advantage of that, only for the government to announce effectively two days before that window that they scrapped that idea, so now lots of people are out a lot of money because they planned to travel to see their families and they're having to spend Christmas alone. Also, we could've locked down until now so people could have seen their families for Christmas without them acting in what is, quite frankly, a cruel manner to get people's hopes up for a tiny bit of normality this year only to take it away at the last minute.
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Post by Roman on Dec 19, 2020 16:51:41 GMT -5
It’s not good of course. But I don’t think you can blame the leaders that much. The virus is hard to contain. Sure, some things could’ve been handled better. But hardly any country has been successful in battling the virus. Predominantly that’s because of the behavior of people. It’s terrible that even hard lockdowns only work moderately because too many people refuse to protect themselves and others. It's more the fact that in the UK we were told that we could travel 22-27th December, so lots of people were understandably taking advantage of that, only for the government to announce effectively two days before that window that they scrapped that idea, so now lots of people are out a lot of money because they planned to travel to see their families and they're having to spend Christmas alone. Also, we could've locked down until now so people could have seen their families for Christmas without them acting in what is, quite frankly, a cruel manner to get people's hopes up for a tiny bit of normality this year only to take it away at the last minute. It’s the same over here. We put off a strict lockdown for months hoping it would be better for Christmas. But obviously it doesn’t. Even now with the strict lockdown, people still don’t get it and try to avoid the rules. The biggest airport of the country has been swamped each day over the last few days. One would expect there would literally only be a handful of people at an airport these days.
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Post by SomeFearlessChick on Dec 19, 2020 19:07:13 GMT -5
I! HATE! LOCKDOWN!! It's looking likely that we're going into permanent lockdown in the UK until at least the end of January, potentially longer. I won't have seen my friends in a year or my nephews in over a year. I'm sick of this. I'm going to do the right thing obviously, but I'm just tired of missing out on life because of the incompetence of our 'leaders'. It’s not good of course. But I don’t think you can blame the leaders that much. The virus is hard to contain. Sure, some things could’ve been handled better. But hardly any country has been successful in battling the virus. Predominantly that’s because of the behavior of people. It’s terrible that even hard lockdowns only work moderately because too many people refuse to protect themselves and others. Ahem. Not true.
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Post by Mew™ on Dec 19, 2020 19:13:00 GMT -5
It’s not good of course. But I don’t think you can blame the leaders that much. The virus is hard to contain. Sure, some things could’ve been handled better. But hardly any country has been successful in battling the virus. Predominantly that’s because of the behavior of people. It’s terrible that even hard lockdowns only work moderately because too many people refuse to protect themselves and others. Ahem. Not true. According to Google, 0 deaths in 19 days. Must be nice to have competent people around you. Be careful, 34 new cases on the 19th though.
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Post by SomeFearlessChick on Dec 19, 2020 19:34:35 GMT -5
I'm just going to reiterate what I told Richard when we were making these comparisons. I was trying to understand why the UK was still struggling with the virus. I expect negligence from certain governments, but I had expected Europe to get somewhat of a hold on things by now. I am aware that there is a very big difference in population density compared to here, but after discussing it, I don't believe this is the prime issue.
I imagine that being in this situation for so long, it's hard to believe that some parts of the world are functioning almost to the point they were before the virus hit, but that's it (though more hygiene/safety measures are in place). To put it in perspective, I actually had to think to try and remember when our lockdown ended. I believe it was June. For the three months prior to that, the country was a complete ghost town. No business was open other than essential services. If you broke Covid rules, you were apprehended. The Prime Minister laid down the law and declared a country-wide lockdown, which was only (gradually) lifted under the guidance of the health ministers. Victoria, our southern state, was hit very hard and required a second lockdown, again, like a ghost town, and masks became mandatory across the state. There has been a small outbreak in Sydney (which is the one Mew is referring to) which has had an immediate response of lockdown. During this period, our state borders were closed and have only opened recently, which also helped contain the virus. New Zealand (whose government also applied strict measures) had an outbreak a few months ago, after being clean for 100 days or so. So the virus is not gone, but it is now manageable, and no longer a public danger like earlier in the year. Life feels 'normal' again. Pubs have been open for a long time, I went to an amusement park not long ago, and a group of about 50 of us caught the ferry and spent the day at the beach together the other weekend. All completely safe. And I don't say it to rub it in, but despite the world's current state, some places have been successful (for the past six months no less).
The bottom line is, Emma is right, regardless of people's behaviour, the government needs to put their foot down and implement the same restrictions. I am grateful every day that I happen to live in a place that did that, which, ignorant me, assumed other governments would follow suit, but unfortunately that's not the case. From my perspective it's bizarre.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2020 23:16:08 GMT -5
Guess we’re not going to have a Christmas tree this year. There’s only 1 thing that could absolutely ruin my Christmas and I guarantee you it will happen. Man f**k Christmas. Honestly.
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Post by taytaytay on Dec 20, 2020 2:09:33 GMT -5
I'm just going to reiterate what I told Richard when we were making these comparisons. I was trying to understand why the UK was still struggling with the virus. I expect negligence from certain governments, but I had expected Europe to get somewhat of a hold on things by now. I am aware that there is a very big difference in population density compared to here, but after discussing it, I don't believe this is the prime issue. I imagine that being in this situation for so long, it's hard to believe that some parts of the world are functioning almost to the point they were before the virus hit, but that's it (though more hygiene/safety measures are in place). To put it in perspective, I actually had to think to try and remember when our lockdown ended. I believe it was June. For the three months prior to that, the country was a complete ghost town. No business was open other than essential services. If you broke Covid rules, you were apprehended. The Prime Minister laid down the law and declared a country-wide lockdown, which was only (gradually) lifted under the guidance of the health ministers. Victoria, our southern state, was hit very hard and required a second lockdown, again, like a ghost town, and masks became mandatory across the state. There has been a small outbreak in Sydney (which is the one Mew is referring to) which has had an immediate response of lockdown. During this period, our state borders were closed and have only opened recently, which also helped contain the virus. New Zealand (whose government also applied strict measures) had an outbreak a few months ago, after being clean for 100 days or so. So the virus is not gone, but it is now manageable, and no longer a public danger like earlier in the year. Life feels 'normal' again. Pubs have been open for a long time, I went to an amusement park not long ago, and a group of about 50 of us caught the ferry and spent the day at the beach together the other weekend. All completely safe. And I don't say it to rub it in, but despite the world's current state, some places have been successful (for the past six months no less). The bottom line is, Emma is right, regardless of people's behaviour, the government needs to put their foot down and implement the same restrictions. I am grateful every day that I happen to live in a place that did that, which, ignorant me, assumed other governments would follow suit, but unfortunately that's not the case. From my perspective it's bizarre. I especially think it's bizarre for the UK-we have the advantage of being an island nation, we could have gone down the route of countries like Australia, New Zealand, Taiwan, or even South Korea (since it's essentially an island) and been free of this during the summer.
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Post by Roman on Dec 20, 2020 5:54:29 GMT -5
I'm just going to reiterate what I told Richard when we were making these comparisons. I was trying to understand why the UK was still struggling with the virus. I expect negligence from certain governments, but I had expected Europe to get somewhat of a hold on things by now. I am aware that there is a very big difference in population density compared to here, but after discussing it, I don't believe this is the prime issue. I imagine that being in this situation for so long, it's hard to believe that some parts of the world are functioning almost to the point they were before the virus hit, but that's it (though more hygiene/safety measures are in place). To put it in perspective, I actually had to think to try and remember when our lockdown ended. I believe it was June. For the three months prior to that, the country was a complete ghost town. No business was open other than essential services. If you broke Covid rules, you were apprehended. The Prime Minister laid down the law and declared a country-wide lockdown, which was only (gradually) lifted under the guidance of the health ministers. Victoria, our southern state, was hit very hard and required a second lockdown, again, like a ghost town, and masks became mandatory across the state. There has been a small outbreak in Sydney (which is the one Mew is referring to) which has had an immediate response of lockdown. During this period, our state borders were closed and have only opened recently, which also helped contain the virus. New Zealand (whose government also applied strict measures) had an outbreak a few months ago, after being clean for 100 days or so. So the virus is not gone, but it is now manageable, and no longer a public danger like earlier in the year. Life feels 'normal' again. Pubs have been open for a long time, I went to an amusement park not long ago, and a group of about 50 of us caught the ferry and spent the day at the beach together the other weekend. All completely safe. And I don't say it to rub it in, but despite the world's current state, some places have been successful (for the past six months no less). The bottom line is, Emma is right, regardless of people's behaviour, the government needs to put their foot down and implement the same restrictions. I am grateful every day that I happen to live in a place that did that, which, ignorant me, assumed other governments would follow suit, but unfortunately that's not the case. From my perspective it's bizarre. That's why I said hardly any countries succeeded. China is probably the country that succeeded the most. Australia / New Zealand come next. But you guys have a few big advantages. There are more people living in the BeNeLux than on your continent. Another big advantage is border policy. It's easy to shut down or regulate the people going in and out of the country. You guys already do that very well outside of COVID. Europe is the entire opposite in that department. There are no borders and people are used to traveling across the continent frequently. Also the weather is an important factor. Over the summer most countries were okay. But as soon as the weather changed, infections accelerated.
I also think it's a matter of mentality and culture. The moment you tell a (Western) European they can not do something, they will give you the finger and are tempted to do the opposite of what you want. Draconian measures like in China would not go over well. Not even the military could contain such problems. Cultural differences are also important. Certain groups of people are used to sticking together with large families. The same groups are often lower class and more prone to rebel against authority. A country like France has the biggest problem in that department. But The Netherlands and Germany also have those problems. I agree with Emma, that the UK could've done better because they are an island. But it's quite crowded. Big city areas will always start a new wave of infections. And there has been too much traveling from and to the European mainland. Brexit needs to hurry up Seriously, last night there have been some travel bans regarding the UK. Let's see how that works out.
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Post by SomeFearlessChick on Dec 20, 2020 7:51:05 GMT -5
There are more people living in the BeNeLux than on your continent. True, but there are more people in China than the whole of Europe! I also think it's a matter of mentality and culture. The moment you tell a (Western) European they can not do something, they will give you the finger and are tempted to do the opposite of what you want. Draconian measures like in China would not go over well. Not even the military could contain such problems. Cultural differences are also important. Certain groups of people are used to sticking together with large families. The same groups are often lower class and more prone to rebel against authority. A country like France has the biggest problem in that department. But The Netherlands and Germany also have those problems. So it depends on people's trust in a government? If you reap the benefits of living in a certain place, it's almost common courtesy to adhere to something like Covid lockdowns and restrictions. The same reason taxes are a thing. Even for the family-oriented cultures, wouldn't it be in their best interest to support such intervention to protect their family members? (I'm not accusing anything, just trying to understand) Maybe due to the fortune I've had of "being on the other side of the virus", my perspective is not as broad. I guess I'm wondering whether the reality is that some countries will treat the pandemic as everyday living until a vaccine hits??🤯🤯🤯 Do people still consider it a pandemic or just go about life normally and hope they don't contract it?? Italy had draconian measures but no one here has really been following the issue since then as other than international travel, it's more of a past issue than a current one for us...again no disrespect, just very interesting to observe the vast range of responses to the pandemic..
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