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Post by JDMaleSwiftie on Oct 14, 2021 20:41:22 GMT -5
I’ve been perplexed at the controversy as it relates to the COVID vaccine. Data and evidence suggests not only is the vaccine safe, but it also does lessen the chances of getting the virus. I’ve often heard those against the vaccine say “this is a personal decision no one can tell me what to do”. The thing is that personal decision impacts a lot of others as well and that is something everyone needs to think about.
I’m not going to tell people whether or not to get the vaccine I will say I hope people consider the risks involved with choosing to not vaccinate themselves and how that will impact everyone around them.
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Post by Roman on Oct 15, 2021 2:34:41 GMT -5
I’ve been perplexed at the controversy as it relates to the COVID vaccine. Data and evidence suggests not only is the vaccine safe, but it also does lessen the chances of getting the virus. I’ve often heard those against the vaccine say “this is a personal decision no one can tell me what to do”. The thing is that personal decision impacts a lot of others as well and that is something everyone needs to think about. I’m not going to tell people whether or not to get the vaccine I will say I hope people consider the risks involved with choosing to not vaccinate themselves and how that will impact everyone around them. What annoys me most is that it has become one big snowball of conspiracy and extreme political views. It’s not about the health crisis anymore. Even if all conspiracies are true, it doesn’t change the reality of the virus and you’re not stopping the change by not getting vaccinated.
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Post by SydneyPaige on Oct 23, 2021 13:36:07 GMT -5
I think Doug Ford is out of his gourd. He’s saying he wants to lift all Covid restrictions by March. Before any of you say it, I know, I know, we have to put faith in the vaccine and lift things eventually. I get it. The thing is, Ontario is the most populated province in the country and other provinces that did lift those restrictions were put back into lockdown with their numbers being at record highs in a few weeks. If that happens here, it will be catastrophic. People are already giving us a hard time about wearing masks , claiming “COVID’s over” (a direct quote from a customer at my store), if we lift the mandate and put it back into place a few weeks later, there will be a spike in assaults towards frontline workers because people will refuse to comply. I’m so tired.
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Post by Roman on Nov 11, 2021 9:36:09 GMT -5
Looks like we’re in a new winter Covid wave , unexpected. I’m mostly tired of all the fighting that’s going on. There’s basically only one issue: people not taking responsibility for their health and the health of others. As long as not everyone is on board with that we will fail at ending this pandemic.
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Post by SydneyPaige on Nov 11, 2021 11:28:16 GMT -5
It looks like we're headed for another wave too but at this point I think people are less likely to obey by the rules. That being said, if they call for another lockdown, things will get ugly. So here's to hoping that doesn't happen.
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Post by oliviabenson(Taylor's Version) on Nov 12, 2021 2:49:23 GMT -5
Germany has many more infections, deaths and numbers in every category than ever before, but they're not doing anything now. Numbers are rising from day to day.
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Post by oliviabenson(Taylor's Version) on Nov 20, 2021 2:41:11 GMT -5
They are transferring the first patients to Italy because the German hospitals are at (and over) their limits.
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Post by The 13th Martyr from Cavite on Nov 20, 2021 6:08:15 GMT -5
Germany has many more infections, deaths and numbers in every category than ever before, but they're not doing anything now. Numbers are rising from day to day. No word yet as to whether they'll put the unvaccinated under lockdown like in Austria and some of your neighbors? I also read in the news that all the Christkindlmärkte in Bavaria and Saxony have been cancelled.
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Post by oliviabenson(Taylor's Version) on Nov 21, 2021 2:31:47 GMT -5
Germany has many more infections, deaths and numbers in every category than ever before, but they're not doing anything now. Numbers are rising from day to day. No word yet as to whether they'll put the unvaccinated under lockdown like in Austria and some of your neighbors? I also read in the news that all the Christkindlmärkte in Bavaria and Saxony have been cancelled. And Bavaria is somehow locking down the unvaccinated. But I think we're too late for just locking them down, besides I think you can't lock down some people because they make use of their rights not to get vaccinated (even if it would be better they would get the shot). Where I live we also have more than 30% vaccinated people in intensive care beds, I think we need a real lockdown for everyone to break the wave and when the numbers has decreased enough, we can try if it actually helps to lock down just unvaccinated people or other things, but the time for experiments is over, we have more than 200 deaths per day. Also they started carnival at 11.11. what I've seen there made me speechless.
Also I think in spring, when the new vaccine will be approved by the EU, a lot more people will get vaccinated, so just hold out until then and give everyone who already is vaccinated the third shot. If they get vaccinated now, it takes more than two months for them to really be vaccinated (so to have the full effect), that's too late for the situation we have now.
Politics just slepts over it for too long and was just looking at the elections and made promises like "there will be no more lockdowns because we have the vaccination". Now they have a problem because of that. They were just too naive.
If they won't make a new lockdown, then they should say that everyone (no matter if vaccinated or not) require a negative COVID test, because the situation now shows what everyone knew before, vaccinated people have a smaller chance of getting COVID and especially of getting sick, but they can get COVID and also can infect other people, so I don't know why vaccinated people don't need a negative test and also don't have to wear masks.
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Post by Roman on Nov 21, 2021 3:58:03 GMT -5
It’s getting out of hand. Besides Covid infections rising rapidly, we now have riots. It has little to do with Covid. Just the regular hooligans using it as an excuse to smash things. It’s time to ditch the soft approach trying to please everyone and making a mess. No matter what measures the government takes, one group of people is always upset (or acts upset). It’s mostly selfishness, boohoo I can’t do what I want. So you might as well do what actually helps. I respect what Austria is doing: lock down completely again for a few weeks and make vaccination mandatory over the next months. If people don’t want to do the right thing, you need to make them. If you act like a child, you need to be disciplined.
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Post by chantel on Nov 21, 2021 8:37:40 GMT -5
No word yet as to whether they'll put the unvaccinated under lockdown like in Austria and some of your neighbors? I also read in the news that all the Christkindlmärkte in Bavaria and Saxony have been cancelled. And Bavaria is somehow locking down the unvaccinated. But I think we're too late for just locking them down, besides I think you can't lock down some people because they make use of their rights not to get vaccinated (even if it would be better they would get the shot). Where I live we also have more than 30% vaccinated people in intensive care beds, I think we need a real lockdown for everyone to break the wave and when the numbers has decreased enough, we can try if it actually helps to lock down just unvaccinated people or other things, but the time for experiments is over, we have more than 200 deaths per day. Also they started carnival at 11.11. what I've seen there made me speechless.
Also I think in spring, when the new vaccine will be approved by the EU, a lot more people will get vaccinated, so just hold out until then and give everyone who already is vaccinated the third shot. If they get vaccinated now, it takes more than two months for them to really be vaccinated (so to have the full effect), that's too late for the situation we have now.
Politics just slepts over it for too long and was just looking at the elections and made promises like "there will be no more lockdowns because we have the vaccination". Now they have a problem because of that. They were just too naive.
If they won't make a new lockdown, then they should say that everyone (no matter if vaccinated or not) require a negative COVID test, because the situation now shows what everyone knew before, vaccinated people have a smaller chance of getting COVID and especially of getting sick, but they can get COVID and also can infect other people, so I don't know why vaccinated people don't need a negative test and also don't have to wear masks.
I have no idea why countries are no longer going with mask mandates and negative tests for everybody either. Even if 100% of the world was vaccinated (which is never going to happen - you probably can't even get 100% of the world to say the sky is blue lol) you'd still get people that get sick and die from Covid since the shot doesn't completely prevent infection or completely stop the spread.
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Post by Roman on Nov 21, 2021 10:48:21 GMT -5
And Bavaria is somehow locking down the unvaccinated. But I think we're too late for just locking them down, besides I think you can't lock down some people because they make use of their rights not to get vaccinated (even if it would be better they would get the shot). Where I live we also have more than 30% vaccinated people in intensive care beds, I think we need a real lockdown for everyone to break the wave and when the numbers has decreased enough, we can try if it actually helps to lock down just unvaccinated people or other things, but the time for experiments is over, we have more than 200 deaths per day. Also they started carnival at 11.11. what I've seen there made me speechless.
Also I think in spring, when the new vaccine will be approved by the EU, a lot more people will get vaccinated, so just hold out until then and give everyone who already is vaccinated the third shot. If they get vaccinated now, it takes more than two months for them to really be vaccinated (so to have the full effect), that's too late for the situation we have now.
Politics just slepts over it for too long and was just looking at the elections and made promises like "there will be no more lockdowns because we have the vaccination". Now they have a problem because of that. They were just too naive.
If they won't make a new lockdown, then they should say that everyone (no matter if vaccinated or not) require a negative COVID test, because the situation now shows what everyone knew before, vaccinated people have a smaller chance of getting COVID and especially of getting sick, but they can get COVID and also can infect other people, so I don't know why vaccinated people don't need a negative test and also don't have to wear masks.
I have no idea why countries are no longer going with mask mandates and negative tests for everybody either. Even if 100% of the world was vaccinated (which is never going to happen - you probably can't even get 100% of the world to say the sky is blue lol) you'd still get people that get sick and die from Covid since the shot doesn't completely prevent infection or completely stop the spread. Yeah, it’s pretty obvious that this pandemic will last. We need to stop the spikes and make a permanent plan for the future on how to battle this. By now it’s clear there shouldn’t be petty fights about single measures or turning it on and off. Worldwide we need to do everything we can. That means: vaccinations for everyone and masks and social distancing and work at home if you can and test everyone who wants to attend an event and travel as few as possible.
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Post by chantel on Nov 22, 2021 9:56:51 GMT -5
I have no idea why countries are no longer going with mask mandates and negative tests for everybody either. Even if 100% of the world was vaccinated (which is never going to happen - you probably can't even get 100% of the world to say the sky is blue lol) you'd still get people that get sick and die from Covid since the shot doesn't completely prevent infection or completely stop the spread. Yeah, it’s pretty obvious that this pandemic will last. We need to stop the spikes and make a permanent plan for the future on how to battle this. By now it’s clear there shouldn’t be petty fights about single measures or turning it on and off. Worldwide we need to do everything we can. That means: vaccinations for everyone and masks and social distancing and work at home if you can and test everyone who wants to attend an event and travel as few as possible. That's a losing battle. It's impossible to get everyone globally to do all of that.
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Post by oliviabenson(Taylor's Version) on Nov 23, 2021 2:40:51 GMT -5
Yeah, it’s pretty obvious that this pandemic will last. We need to stop the spikes and make a permanent plan for the future on how to battle this. By now it’s clear there shouldn’t be petty fights about single measures or turning it on and off. Worldwide we need to do everything we can. That means: vaccinations for everyone and masks and social distancing and work at home if you can and test everyone who wants to attend an event and travel as few as possible. That's a losing battle. It's impossible to get everyone globally to do all of that. Unfortunately I'm with you here.
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Post by Roman on Nov 23, 2021 9:41:54 GMT -5
That's a losing battle. It's impossible to get everyone globally to do all of that. Unfortunately I'm with you here. We should at least try. In the Western world we could make most of it happen. For those worldwide who can’t, we’ll say: “stay away”.
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