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Post by SydneyPaige on Aug 22, 2022 12:57:47 GMT -5
I’m not denying that dogs have fight or flight reactions to things they don’t like. It’s important to learn those triggers and know how to work around them. This goes for pitbulls too. The whole “pitbulls are born killers” narrative is born in the media. It only exist because of the torque that is in their jaw (if they bite you it’s harder to get your hand out of their mouth) however the “pitbulls are the most likely to bite you narrative has been proven to be untrue. What dog is the most likely to bite you? Chihuahuas. I don’t see anyone trying to ban them though. I’ve had bull breed dogs almost my whole life. 2 of which we’ve taken out of abusive and neglectful situations. We work with them, we do the training, we learn their boundaries, we discipline them when they misbehave. The result? We get dogs with the sweetest dispositions who have no intentions of killing anyone. However I know not everyone is like my family. Not everyone has a sister who owns a dog rescue who’s dedicated their lives to dogs and who has an extensive application process for every single family who looks to adopt and who offers free training to every adoptee and foster. Not everyone is willing to do the work to train their dogs. That’s where the problem exists. The people who just buy dogs from breeders who care little about the dog’s welfare and are just looking to make a quick buck and then turn around and refuse to train their dog and when it misbehaves they either ditch it with a rescue or abuse/neglect the thing are typically where the problem lies. My sister has hundred of stories like these. Usually the problem doesn’t lie with the animal but the people who own it. That’s when people get hurt. All predator animals are born killers. If a Chihuahua is attacking I can restrain and it's no big deal. I do that with a pitbull and my arms are going to get ripped off. That's a big difference on why people want those dogs banned. They may not be most likely to bite but they are most likely to kill once the attack initiates. You can try to train them to react accordingly for potential triggers but it's just not possible to train them for everything they may encounter. Everyone that has a pitbull says their dog is sweet right before they end up attacking someone. I’ve had bull breeds for majority of my life and they have never ever killed anyone. If they had we would take full responsibility for it. Never happened. My sister who used to work in doggie daycare before starting her rescue has had way more injuries from small toy dogs like chihuahua’s who unlike larger breeds will bite you 5 times before you can even react to shake them off. Science has disproven the whole pitbull biting thing is fictional. Yes they can bite you and do damage but the thing with pitbulls is that they are stubborn. They’ll bite once and refuse to let go. How do you get them to let go? Use your other hand and bop them on the nose with your fist. I can see that we’re not going to agree on this issue and that’s fine. Everyone is entitled to their own opinions. I’ve come to love bull breeds because I never bought into the fearmongering and have let my own experiences shape my opinion. Not every dog is going to be the right fit for every person. If I’m being honest with you, I know you have a pomsky and I don’t think I would be the right fit for that dog. Pomeranians are known for having an extremely high bite count. My sister says that her worst injuries have come from Pomeranian bites. Husky are working dogs that are extremely high energy. If you don’t work them and run them they can be very destructive. I have 3 dogs, a Scott American Bulldog, A Pointer Terrier mix and yes, a Pitbull and I don’t know if any type of dog would fit better in my family than the 3 of them. Oh shoot, I forgot about my fourth puppy who’s the one the other 3 are afraid of. My domestic medium haired cat Hank.
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Post by chantel on Aug 22, 2022 13:14:32 GMT -5
All predator animals are born killers. If a Chihuahua is attacking I can restrain and it's no big deal. I do that with a pitbull and my arms are going to get ripped off. That's a big difference on why people want those dogs banned. They may not be most likely to bite but they are most likely to kill once the attack initiates. You can try to train them to react accordingly for potential triggers but it's just not possible to train them for everything they may encounter. Everyone that has a pitbull says their dog is sweet right before they end up attacking someone. I’ve had bull breeds for majority of my life and they have never ever killed anyone. If they had we would take full responsibility for it. Never happened. My sister who used to work in doggie daycare before starting her rescue has had way more injuries from small toy dogs like chihuahua’s who unlike larger breeds will bite you 5 times before you can even react to shake them off. Science has disproven the whole pitbull biting thing is fictional. Yes they can bite you and do damage but the thing with pitbulls is that they are stubborn. They’ll bite once and refuse to let go. How do you get them to let go? Use your other hand and bop them on the nose with your fist. I can see that we’re not going to agree on this issue and that’s fine. Everyone is entitled to their own opinions. I’ve come to love bull breeds because I never bought into the fearmongering and have let my own experiences shape my opinion. Not every dog is going to be the right fit for every person. If I’m being honest with you, I know you have a pomsky and I don’t think I would be the right fit for that dog. Pomeranians are known for having an extremely high bite count. My sister says that her worst injuries have come from Pomeranian bites. Husky are working dogs that are extremely high energy. If you don’t work them and run them they can be very destructive. I have 3 dogs, a Scott American Bulldog, A Pointer Terrier mix and yes, a Pitbull and I don’t know if any type of dog would fit better in my family than the 3 of them. Oh shoot, I forgot about my fourth puppy who’s the one the other 3 are afraid of. My domestic medium haired cat Hank. I think people like you that have pitbulls that haven't attacked are just lucky enough not to have encountered a trigger to set them off but they are all capable. Did you sister mean that owners of the Pomeranians sent them to her after the owners themselves recieved the injury or did the Pomeranians injure your sister? Also sidenote I don't want to specifically single out pitbulls. All dogs are dangerous. Pitbulls are just more dangerous. I've been terrified of all stranger's dogs ever since I was chased by a huge lab when I was a little kid.
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Post by SydneyPaige on Aug 22, 2022 13:33:35 GMT -5
I’ve had bull breeds for majority of my life and they have never ever killed anyone. If they had we would take full responsibility for it. Never happened. My sister who used to work in doggie daycare before starting her rescue has had way more injuries from small toy dogs like chihuahua’s who unlike larger breeds will bite you 5 times before you can even react to shake them off. Science has disproven the whole pitbull biting thing is fictional. Yes they can bite you and do damage but the thing with pitbulls is that they are stubborn. They’ll bite once and refuse to let go. How do you get them to let go? Use your other hand and bop them on the nose with your fist. I can see that we’re not going to agree on this issue and that’s fine. Everyone is entitled to their own opinions. I’ve come to love bull breeds because I never bought into the fearmongering and have let my own experiences shape my opinion. Not every dog is going to be the right fit for every person. If I’m being honest with you, I know you have a pomsky and I don’t think I would be the right fit for that dog. Pomeranians are known for having an extremely high bite count. My sister says that her worst injuries have come from Pomeranian bites. Husky are working dogs that are extremely high energy. If you don’t work them and run them they can be very destructive. I have 3 dogs, a Scott American Bulldog, A Pointer Terrier mix and yes, a Pitbull and I don’t know if any type of dog would fit better in my family than the 3 of them. Oh shoot, I forgot about my fourth puppy who’s the one the other 3 are afraid of. My domestic medium haired cat Hank. I think people like you that have pitbulls that haven't attacked are just lucky enough not to have encountered a trigger to set them off but they are all capable. Did you sister mean that owners of the Pomeranians sent them to her after the owners themselves recieved the injury or did the Pomeranians injure your sister? Also sidenote I don't want to specifically single out pitbulls. All dogs are dangerous. Pitbulls are just more dangerous. I've been terrified of all stranger's dogs ever since I was chased by a huge lab when I was a little kid. My sister used to work at a doggy daycare and dog walking before she started her rescue (she's back to doing dog walking again actually, her rescue in non-profit so she does dog walking to make a living. If you're interested the link to her rescue is here or you can like her fb page here I'm obliged to plug the rescue when I can lol). When she was in doggy daycare there would be times where Pomeranians would try to start fights with other dogs in the small dog section and she would get bit trying to break it up. That or she would assist with grooming and get bit by them while trying to help. I think the issue with a lot of small breeds like Pomeranians is that a lot of them don't really get trained cause when they start acting up a lot of owners will just pick them up and take them away instead of actually correcting their behaviour. Hearing your story about being chased by a big lab as a kid actually helps me understand your viewpoint a bit better actually. Naturally it's easier to be scared of a certain type of a dog if you've had a bad experience. I do agree that all dogs can be dangerous but, I also don't think that any one particular breed is inherently evil. I think it's important for people who are interested in adopting to do lots of research into the breeds they're buying and what they're history of a breed is so you can better know the proper way to train and care for that animal. A lot of trainers will tell you that you're not training your dog but your dog is training you. I think you just have to be willing to do the research and the work.
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Post by chantel on Aug 22, 2022 20:33:40 GMT -5
Sydney what does your sister think about dog training schools that use vibrating collars (not shock collars)?
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Post by Roman on Aug 23, 2022 1:54:41 GMT -5
I’ve had bull breeds for majority of my life and they have never ever killed anyone. If they had we would take full responsibility for it. Never happened. My sister who used to work in doggie daycare before starting her rescue has had way more injuries from small toy dogs like chihuahua’s who unlike larger breeds will bite you 5 times before you can even react to shake them off. Science has disproven the whole pitbull biting thing is fictional. Yes they can bite you and do damage but the thing with pitbulls is that they are stubborn. They’ll bite once and refuse to let go. How do you get them to let go? Use your other hand and bop them on the nose with your fist. I can see that we’re not going to agree on this issue and that’s fine. Everyone is entitled to their own opinions. I’ve come to love bull breeds because I never bought into the fearmongering and have let my own experiences shape my opinion. Not every dog is going to be the right fit for every person. If I’m being honest with you, I know you have a pomsky and I don’t think I would be the right fit for that dog. Pomeranians are known for having an extremely high bite count. My sister says that her worst injuries have come from Pomeranian bites. Husky are working dogs that are extremely high energy. If you don’t work them and run them they can be very destructive. I have 3 dogs, a Scott American Bulldog, A Pointer Terrier mix and yes, a Pitbull and I don’t know if any type of dog would fit better in my family than the 3 of them. Oh shoot, I forgot about my fourth puppy who’s the one the other 3 are afraid of. My domestic medium haired cat Hank. I think people like you that have pitbulls that haven't attacked are just lucky enough not to have encountered a trigger to set them off but they are all capable. Did you sister mean that owners of the Pomeranians sent them to her after the owners themselves recieved the injury or did the Pomeranians injure your sister? Also sidenote I don't want to specifically single out pitbulls. All dogs are dangerous. Pitbulls are just more dangerous. I've been terrified of all stranger's dogs ever since I was chased by a huge lab when I was a little kid. Some “aggressive” dog breeds like Pitbulls and Staffords are infamous for having a higher probability of lashing out. Shockingly the percentage of lashing out to babies is even higher. There was this woman at work. She always had Staffords and also argued they are not more aggressive. Ironically she had a massive scar in her face from one of her dogs biting her. Her Staffords also regularly chased and attacked other dogs. And her most recent dog attacked her little nephew. So safe to say, there’s enough evidence of some breeds being even more violent and unreliable.
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Post by SydneyPaige on Aug 23, 2022 9:56:11 GMT -5
I think people like you that have pitbulls that haven't attacked are just lucky enough not to have encountered a trigger to set them off but they are all capable. Did you sister mean that owners of the Pomeranians sent them to her after the owners themselves recieved the injury or did the Pomeranians injure your sister? Also sidenote I don't want to specifically single out pitbulls. All dogs are dangerous. Pitbulls are just more dangerous. I've been terrified of all stranger's dogs ever since I was chased by a huge lab when I was a little kid. Some “aggressive” dog breeds like Pitbulls and Staffords are infamous for having a higher probability of lashing out. Shockingly the percentage of lashing out to babies is even higher. There was this woman at work. She always had Staffords and also argued they are not more aggressive. Ironically she had a massive scar in her face from one of her dogs biting her. Her Staffords also regularly chased and attacked other dogs. And her most recent dog attacked her little nephew. So safe to say, there’s enough evidence of some breeds being even more violent and unreliable. There's enough evidence that any dog breed is violent or unreliable. All dogs can be dangerous in the wrong hands without proper training and without care. Does that mean we should ban dogs altogether? No. This just means that it's up to pet owners to take responsibility and train their pets. Unfortunately big dogs get a worse rep because...well they're big and people think that smaller dogs are easier to fight off. A lot of people forget that small dogs were also used for fighting because they were able to bite quicker and get in between an opponents leg to take them down and let a bigger dog finish the work. All dog breeds were originally used for either fighting, hunting or working on farm land. They've been domesticated and spoiled through the years to the point that most just either play, walk or lay around the house all day, but those tasks are all in their genetic make-up, you have to train the worst behaviours out or you find a way to make those behaviours good for them. A high energy dog needs a task, needs to be busy, needs to have something to do? So what do you do? You buy it toys, you take them on walks, you find a way to give them positive reinforcement. All I'm trying to say is that singling out specific breeds is unfair when all dogs have the potential to be dangerous. As a pet owner, you have to do your homework.
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Post by SydneyPaige on Aug 23, 2022 10:06:50 GMT -5
Sydney what does your sister think about dog training schools that use vibrating collars (not shock collars)? I texted my sister for you I will message you her response when she gets back to me. I don't think she's opposed to them but I can't say for sure.
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Post by Roman on Aug 23, 2022 10:19:20 GMT -5
Some “aggressive” dog breeds like Pitbulls and Staffords are infamous for having a higher probability of lashing out. Shockingly the percentage of lashing out to babies is even higher. There was this woman at work. She always had Staffords and also argued they are not more aggressive. Ironically she had a massive scar in her face from one of her dogs biting her. Her Staffords also regularly chased and attacked other dogs. And her most recent dog attacked her little nephew. So safe to say, there’s enough evidence of some breeds being even more violent and unreliable. There's enough evidence that any dog breed is violent or unreliable. All dogs can be dangerous in the wrong hands without proper training and without care. Does that mean we should ban dogs altogether? No. This just means that it's up to pet owners to take responsibility and train their pets. Unfortunately big dogs get a worse rep because...well they're big and people think that smaller dogs are easier to fight off. A lot of people forget that small dogs were also used for fighting because they were able to bite quicker and get in between an opponents leg to take them down and let a bigger dog finish the work. All dog breeds were originally used for either fighting, hunting or working on farm land. They've been domesticated and spoiled through the years to the point that most just either play, walk or lay around the house all day, but those tasks are all in their genetic make-up, you have to train the worst behaviours out or you find a way to make those behaviours good for them. A high energy dog needs a task, needs to be busy, needs to have something to do? So what do you do? You buy it toys, you take them on walks, you find a way to give them positive reinforcement. All I'm trying to say is that singling out specific breeds is unfair when all dogs have the potential to be dangerous. As a pet owner, you have to do your homework. Agree that dogs (animals) are immoral. One shouldn’t have pets at all. They don’t belong in your house around people. And yes, if you still decide to do so, you need to train your pet extensively. Yet with dogs, some breeds are still pretty unreliable while others have a minimum risk of doing terrible things if they’re properly trained. And yes, it also has to do with size/strength. People underestimate how vicious a lot of small dogs are. But with Staffords and Pitbulls the combination of character and strength makes them so dangerous. Unfortunately training them isn’t enough. It’s like with tigers. Even if you give it your all to minimize the risk, they’re a ticking timebomb. Once they lash out, the consequences will be devastating.
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Post by SydneyPaige on Aug 23, 2022 10:47:29 GMT -5
There's enough evidence that any dog breed is violent or unreliable. All dogs can be dangerous in the wrong hands without proper training and without care. Does that mean we should ban dogs altogether? No. This just means that it's up to pet owners to take responsibility and train their pets. Unfortunately big dogs get a worse rep because...well they're big and people think that smaller dogs are easier to fight off. A lot of people forget that small dogs were also used for fighting because they were able to bite quicker and get in between an opponents leg to take them down and let a bigger dog finish the work. All dog breeds were originally used for either fighting, hunting or working on farm land. They've been domesticated and spoiled through the years to the point that most just either play, walk or lay around the house all day, but those tasks are all in their genetic make-up, you have to train the worst behaviours out or you find a way to make those behaviours good for them. A high energy dog needs a task, needs to be busy, needs to have something to do? So what do you do? You buy it toys, you take them on walks, you find a way to give them positive reinforcement. All I'm trying to say is that singling out specific breeds is unfair when all dogs have the potential to be dangerous. As a pet owner, you have to do your homework. Agree that dogs (animals) are immoral. One shouldn’t have pets at all. They don’t belong in your house around people. And yes, if you still decide to do so, you need to train your pet extensively. Yet with dogs, some breeds are still pretty unreliable while others have a minimum risk of doing terrible things if they’re properly trained. And yes, it also has to do with size/strength. People underestimate how vicious a lot of small dogs are. But with Staffords and Pitbulls the combination of character and strength makes them so dangerous. Unfortunately training them isn’t enough. It’s like with tigers. Even if you give it your all to minimize the risk, they’re a ticking timebomb. Once they lash out, the consequences will be devastating. That's your opinion and I'm not looking to change it. I think dogs have a lot more emotional intelligence than you're giving them credit for. Studies have come out saying that most dogs have the same maturity and intelligence as your average 3 year old. Am I afraid of toddlers? No. Am I going to hand them a knife and ask them not to stab anyone? Also no. What do I also know about toddlers? I know that they are not old enough to know that hitting or biting someone when they're angry is wrong and that when they do bad things, they need to be reprimanded and taught to not do those things. That is what dog training is. Dogs know how to be remorseful. Dogs know when you're upset. It's true that dogs can be dangerous but this whole ticking time bomb thing is media fear mongering. No dog wants to bite the hand that feeds. They lash out when provoked or when they feel they are in a dangerous situation. They idea with dog ownership is to make sure they don't end up in those situations. Roman, you are terrified of dogs and it's an understandable fear. Maybe you had a bad experience with one, maybe someone you know like a parent was afraid of them and taught you their fear. I'm not going to sit here and try and convince you to think otherwise because I know I'm not going to change your opinion. I'm just sharing my experiences that I've had with dogs. That being said, I don't think people who are afraid of dogs shouldn't be dog owners. I don't think people who are afraid of cats shouldn't be cat owners. Shoot, I'm afraid of mice, I'm never going to have a pet mouse. If you're afraid of something, you're never going to give it the proper care it deserves. Just know that I have years and years and years of experience as a pet owner. I'm extremely responsible and I can say with confidence my dogs are never going to randomly attack someone. If someone who visits me is afraid of dogs or is weak and unable to deal with dogs, I lock them upstairs in one of the bedrooms. Same with the cat. Please do not worry about me as a pet owner, I know what I'm doing.
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Post by SydneyPaige on Aug 23, 2022 11:32:35 GMT -5
Sydney what does your sister think about dog training schools that use vibrating collars (not shock collars)? I texted my sister for you I will message you her response when she gets back to me. I don't think she's opposed to them but I can't say for sure. She replied and said verbatim "Literally nothing wrong with either tool".
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Post by Roman on Aug 23, 2022 12:00:52 GMT -5
Agree that dogs (animals) are immoral. One shouldn’t have pets at all. They don’t belong in your house around people. And yes, if you still decide to do so, you need to train your pet extensively. Yet with dogs, some breeds are still pretty unreliable while others have a minimum risk of doing terrible things if they’re properly trained. And yes, it also has to do with size/strength. People underestimate how vicious a lot of small dogs are. But with Staffords and Pitbulls the combination of character and strength makes them so dangerous. Unfortunately training them isn’t enough. It’s like with tigers. Even if you give it your all to minimize the risk, they’re a ticking timebomb. Once they lash out, the consequences will be devastating. That's your opinion and I'm not looking to change it. I think dogs have a lot more emotional intelligence than you're giving them credit for. Studies have come out saying that most dogs have the same maturity and intelligence as your average 3 year old. Am I afraid of toddlers? No. Am I going to hand them a knife and ask them not to stab anyone? Also no. What do I also know about toddlers? I know that they are not old enough to know that hitting or biting someone when they're angry is wrong and that when they do bad things, they need to be reprimanded and taught to not do those things. That is what dog training is. Dogs know how to be remorseful. Dogs know when you're upset. It's true that dogs can be dangerous but this whole ticking time bomb thing is media fear mongering. No dog wants to bite the hand that feeds. They lash out when provoked or when they feel they are in a dangerous situation. They idea with dog ownership is to make sure they don't end up in those situations. Roman, you are terrified of dogs and it's an understandable fear. Maybe you had a bad experience with one, maybe someone you know like a parent was afraid of them and taught you their fear. I'm not going to sit here and try and convince you to think otherwise because I know I'm not going to change your opinion. I'm just sharing my experiences that I've had with dogs. That being said, I don't think people who are afraid of dogs shouldn't be dog owners. I don't think people who are afraid of cats shouldn't be cat owners. Shoot, I'm afraid of mice, I'm never going to have a pet mouse. If you're afraid of something, you're never going to give it the proper care it deserves. Just know that I have years and years and years of experience as a pet owner. I'm extremely responsible and I can say with confidence my dogs are never going to randomly attack someone. If someone who visits me is afraid of dogs or is weak and unable to deal with dogs, I lock them upstairs in one of the bedrooms. Same with the cat. Please do not worry about me as a pet owner, I know what I'm doing. Well think about this: in pretty much every incident of babies getting killed or seriously injured by a dog it’s by certain breeds of dogs. It’s also obvious that it’s in their own household without any provocation. Like I said, training it out of them is an illusion of dog owners refusing to do the right thing. As for me personally. I’m not terrified of most dogs. It’s more a matter of hygiene, boundaries and annoyance. I really don’t like the smell of dogs (or other pets) and them touching me or my stuff. It wouldn’t go over well if I had a pet spreading their filth in my house, let alone damaging stuff. I’m not one to hurt animals, but if they commit a “crime” they would need to go. What also is a factor is that I like sports. Running and cycling doesn’t go together with dogs.
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Post by SydneyPaige on Aug 23, 2022 12:21:20 GMT -5
That's your opinion and I'm not looking to change it. I think dogs have a lot more emotional intelligence than you're giving them credit for. Studies have come out saying that most dogs have the same maturity and intelligence as your average 3 year old. Am I afraid of toddlers? No. Am I going to hand them a knife and ask them not to stab anyone? Also no. What do I also know about toddlers? I know that they are not old enough to know that hitting or biting someone when they're angry is wrong and that when they do bad things, they need to be reprimanded and taught to not do those things. That is what dog training is. Dogs know how to be remorseful. Dogs know when you're upset. It's true that dogs can be dangerous but this whole ticking time bomb thing is media fear mongering. No dog wants to bite the hand that feeds. They lash out when provoked or when they feel they are in a dangerous situation. They idea with dog ownership is to make sure they don't end up in those situations. Roman, you are terrified of dogs and it's an understandable fear. Maybe you had a bad experience with one, maybe someone you know like a parent was afraid of them and taught you their fear. I'm not going to sit here and try and convince you to think otherwise because I know I'm not going to change your opinion. I'm just sharing my experiences that I've had with dogs. That being said, I don't think people who are afraid of dogs shouldn't be dog owners. I don't think people who are afraid of cats shouldn't be cat owners. Shoot, I'm afraid of mice, I'm never going to have a pet mouse. If you're afraid of something, you're never going to give it the proper care it deserves. Just know that I have years and years and years of experience as a pet owner. I'm extremely responsible and I can say with confidence my dogs are never going to randomly attack someone. If someone who visits me is afraid of dogs or is weak and unable to deal with dogs, I lock them upstairs in one of the bedrooms. Same with the cat. Please do not worry about me as a pet owner, I know what I'm doing. Well think about this: in pretty much every incident of babies getting killed or seriously injured by a dog it’s by certain breeds of dogs. It’s also obvious that it’s in their own household without any provocation. Like I said, training it out of them is an illusion of dog owners refusing to do the right thing. As for me personally. I’m not terrified of most dogs. It’s more a matter of hygiene, boundaries and annoyance. I really don’t like the smell of dogs (or other pets) and them touching me or my stuff. It wouldn’t go over well if I had a pet spreading their filth in my house, let alone damaging stuff. I’m not one to hurt animals, but if they commit a “crime” they would need to go. What also is a factor is that I like sports. Running and cycling doesn’t go together with dogs. Yes and no, in cases of murder by dogs, yes big dogs are more likely to offend but small dogs are more likely to cause non-lethal harm to a child like bites and such. In the case of dogs deemed dangerous like Pitbulls and such, the odds are stacked against them because there are still garbage people who train those dogs to be killers for dog fighting which is despicable and wrong. I 100% believe that if you bring a dog into a home with a child, it's up to the parent to teach their children how to treat animals and not hurt them, until they do a dog should not be left unsupervised with a child. Realistically the number of yearly fatalities worldwide that's caused by dogs is relatively low and in most cases it's caused in cases of negligence where owners aren't paying attention to their animals the way they should be or their owners are criminals who trained their dogs to be vicious. You're apprehension to dogs due to dirt is totally understandable. The amount of sweeping, dusting and cleaning I have to do in a week is insane. Also I know for a fact that every single piece of clothing I own has dog hair in it. You can teach dogs to jog with you but on a bike they would slow you down. Also it would take some extra training cause most dogs don't like wheels.
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Post by Roman on Aug 23, 2022 12:50:50 GMT -5
Well think about this: in pretty much every incident of babies getting killed or seriously injured by a dog it’s by certain breeds of dogs. It’s also obvious that it’s in their own household without any provocation. Like I said, training it out of them is an illusion of dog owners refusing to do the right thing. As for me personally. I’m not terrified of most dogs. It’s more a matter of hygiene, boundaries and annoyance. I really don’t like the smell of dogs (or other pets) and them touching me or my stuff. It wouldn’t go over well if I had a pet spreading their filth in my house, let alone damaging stuff. I’m not one to hurt animals, but if they commit a “crime” they would need to go. What also is a factor is that I like sports. Running and cycling doesn’t go together with dogs. Yes and no, in cases of murder by dogs, yes big dogs are more likely to offend but small dogs are more likely to cause non-lethal harm to a child like bites and such. In the case of dogs deemed dangerous like Pitbulls and such, the odds are stacked against them because there are still garbage people who train those dogs to be killers for dog fighting which is despicable and wrong. I 100% believe that if you bring a dog into a home with a child, it's up to the parent to teach their children how to treat animals and not hurt them, until they do a dog should not be left unsupervised with a child. Realistically the number of yearly fatalities worldwide that's caused by dogs is relatively low and in most cases it's caused in cases of negligence where owners aren't paying attention to their animals the way they should be or their owners are criminals who trained their dogs to be vicious. You're apprehension to dogs due to dirt is totally understandable. The amount of sweeping, dusting and cleaning I have to do in a week is insane. Also I know for a fact that every single piece of clothing I own has dog hair in it. You can teach dogs to jog with you but on a bike they would slow you down. Also it would take some extra training cause most dogs don't like wheels. I definitely don’t aspire to take a dog with me running or cycling. Running is possible with a dog. But the dog needs to be hydrated and rest if you go longer. Cycling would just be mean. The distances you cover are way too long for dogs, even if you go slow. I actually meant that if I go running or cycling, other people’s dogs are a pain. They regularly get in my way when I’m running. I always need to take precautions to maximize the distance to dogs and minimize the potential risk of getting jumped at or even bitten. And swerve around dog poop. For cyclists dogs are a nightmare. If it’s not the dog itself it’s the leash that is potentially very dangerous. Dogs should be banned from bike lanes or smaller bike roads. As for filth: that’s a thing with most pets. Cats are also leaving hair everywhere. Or they scratch your stuff. Birds are also terrible and can be very noisy. And I probably don’t have to remind you when pets get older what a nightmare they become.
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Post by SydneyPaige on Aug 23, 2022 13:10:38 GMT -5
Yes and no, in cases of murder by dogs, yes big dogs are more likely to offend but small dogs are more likely to cause non-lethal harm to a child like bites and such. In the case of dogs deemed dangerous like Pitbulls and such, the odds are stacked against them because there are still garbage people who train those dogs to be killers for dog fighting which is despicable and wrong. I 100% believe that if you bring a dog into a home with a child, it's up to the parent to teach their children how to treat animals and not hurt them, until they do a dog should not be left unsupervised with a child. Realistically the number of yearly fatalities worldwide that's caused by dogs is relatively low and in most cases it's caused in cases of negligence where owners aren't paying attention to their animals the way they should be or their owners are criminals who trained their dogs to be vicious. You're apprehension to dogs due to dirt is totally understandable. The amount of sweeping, dusting and cleaning I have to do in a week is insane. Also I know for a fact that every single piece of clothing I own has dog hair in it. You can teach dogs to jog with you but on a bike they would slow you down. Also it would take some extra training cause most dogs don't like wheels. I definitely don’t aspire to take a dog with me running or cycling. Running is possible with a dog. But the dog needs to be hydrated and rest if you go longer. Cycling would just be mean. The distances you cover are way too long for dogs, even if you go slow. I actually meant that if I go running or cycling, other people’s dogs are a pain. They regularly get in my way when I’m running. I always need to take precautions to maximize the distance to dogs and minimize the potential risk of getting jumped at or even bitten. And swerve around dog poop. For cyclists dogs are a nightmare. If it’s not the dog itself it’s the leash that is potentially very dangerous. Dogs should be banned from bike lanes or smaller bike roads. As for filth: that’s a thing with most pets. Cats are also leaving hair everywhere. Or they scratch your stuff. Birds are also terrible and can be very noisy. And I probably don’t have to remind you when pets get older what a nightmare they become. That makes sense. I constantly keep my eye out for joggers and cyclist when I’m walking my dog and spot them before they do. I also keep them on a short lead when I see them because I know my dogs react poorly to cyclist and sometimes joggers (Usually they only bark at joggers, typically Mercy wants to go jogging too and I have to remind her that a jogger I am not). Yes, the pets are messy. My dogs are past the point of wrecking our stuff but Hank is constantly pulling on the furniture. Older dogs do take extra to take care of but I find it rewarding to let an animal have a peaceful goodbye. Especially if they didn’t always have the nicest life.
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Post by chantel on Aug 23, 2022 13:14:51 GMT -5
Yes and no, in cases of murder by dogs, yes big dogs are more likely to offend but small dogs are more likely to cause non-lethal harm to a child like bites and such. In the case of dogs deemed dangerous like Pitbulls and such, the odds are stacked against them because there are still garbage people who train those dogs to be killers for dog fighting which is despicable and wrong. I 100% believe that if you bring a dog into a home with a child, it's up to the parent to teach their children how to treat animals and not hurt them, until they do a dog should not be left unsupervised with a child. Realistically the number of yearly fatalities worldwide that's caused by dogs is relatively low and in most cases it's caused in cases of negligence where owners aren't paying attention to their animals the way they should be or their owners are criminals who trained their dogs to be vicious. You're apprehension to dogs due to dirt is totally understandable. The amount of sweeping, dusting and cleaning I have to do in a week is insane. Also I know for a fact that every single piece of clothing I own has dog hair in it. You can teach dogs to jog with you but on a bike they would slow you down. Also it would take some extra training cause most dogs don't like wheels. I definitely don’t aspire to take a dog with me running or cycling. Running is possible with a dog. But the dog needs to be hydrated and rest if you go longer. Cycling would just be mean. The distances you cover are way too long for dogs, even if you go slow. I actually meant that if I go running or cycling, other people’s dogs are a pain. They regularly get in my way when I’m running. I always need to take precautions to maximize the distance to dogs and minimize the potential risk of getting jumped at or even bitten. And swerve around dog poop. For cyclists dogs are a nightmare. If it’s not the dog itself it’s the leash that is potentially very dangerous. Dogs should be banned from bike lanes or smaller bike roads. As for filth: that’s a thing with most pets. Cats are also leaving hair everywhere. Or they scratch your stuff. Birds are also terrible and can be very noisy. And I probably don’t have to remind you when pets get older what a nightmare they become. Why are people walking dogs in bike lanes? Do you not have sidewalks?
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