Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2021 0:08:43 GMT -5
This really does make a lot of sense but it's actually angering me that people are saying Renegade is a response to peace or this is me trying. I wanted to like the song but those lyrics are a no. To be honest, I can't tell if the song is about somebody in a toxic relationship with someone that's mentally ill and not trying to get better but they feel like they have to stay in the relationship, the mentally ill partner's not getting better fast enough for the person, or if they're trying to tell the mentally ill partner that getting pushed away really hurts them but they love them so much and want to help them get better. Maybe it's "dramatic" or "stupid" but the song made me feel a little differently about Taylor. It was the way she described this is me trying in the folklore long pond studio sessions. She described it as someone struggling with their mental health and trying to take the steps to get better and wanting someone to recognize that by saying "Hey, I see you're trying and that's huge.". But, in this song, to me, it sounds like "Well, yeah, you are trying but you still have all these problems. Can you fix them already?" and that's why hearing that Renegade is a response to this is me trying angers me.
"the shape of you was jagged and weak" okay, I kind of take this one 2 ways. 1. That's saying the mentally ill partner is weak which is a super gross thing to say to someone that's struggling. 2. They understand how hard it is to fight depression and/or anxiety and they feel like their partner's true self is tired and weak from fighting so hard.
"and let all of your damage damage me" all I can hear is blaming the mentally ill partner for being mentally ill...
"and if I would've known how many pieces you had crumbled into, I might have let them lay"/"and if I would've known how sharp the pieces were you'd crumbled into, I might've let them lay"/"is it insensitive for me to say, "Get your sh*t together, so I can love you"?" all 3 of those lines SCREAM "you're not worthy of love because you're struggling with your mental health". It's the first two lines that I cannot get over. That is a disgusting thing to say to someone whether they're struggling or not. And why would you say that to someone you supposedly love anyway? But I have thought, "Okay, if this is about a toxic relationship, maybe the main person is saying 'If I would have known how much pain you were going to cause me since you don't care about getting better, I would have stayed away from you'".
"is it really your anxiety that stops you from giving me everything or do you just not want to?" True, you shouldn't use your mental illness as an excuse to get away with things but idk man...this line sounds more like dismissing someone's mental illness. No, I haven't been professionally diagnosed with anything, but if I were to fall in love with someone, I would absolutely want to give them the world but I just don't feel good enough and that's not your fault so why are you taking it so personally!!
It's weird for me to hear those lines and then hear love and support in "there was nowhere for me to stay, but I stayed anyway" and "you've come a long way, open the blinds, let me see your face, you wouldn't be the first renegade to need somebody". It's a confusing song, for me. But I suppose it's also weird and confusing when your significant other says they love you one minute and the next, they're trying to push you as far away as possible... I hate it because I obviously don't *get* something that everyone else does. But, anyway, after this, I'm going to try to act like this song doesn't exist. Here's hoping I'll like Birch.
"the shape of you was jagged and weak" okay, I kind of take this one 2 ways. 1. That's saying the mentally ill partner is weak which is a super gross thing to say to someone that's struggling. 2. They understand how hard it is to fight depression and/or anxiety and they feel like their partner's true self is tired and weak from fighting so hard.
"and let all of your damage damage me" all I can hear is blaming the mentally ill partner for being mentally ill...
"and if I would've known how many pieces you had crumbled into, I might have let them lay"/"and if I would've known how sharp the pieces were you'd crumbled into, I might've let them lay"/"is it insensitive for me to say, "Get your sh*t together, so I can love you"?" all 3 of those lines SCREAM "you're not worthy of love because you're struggling with your mental health". It's the first two lines that I cannot get over. That is a disgusting thing to say to someone whether they're struggling or not. And why would you say that to someone you supposedly love anyway? But I have thought, "Okay, if this is about a toxic relationship, maybe the main person is saying 'If I would have known how much pain you were going to cause me since you don't care about getting better, I would have stayed away from you'".
"is it really your anxiety that stops you from giving me everything or do you just not want to?" True, you shouldn't use your mental illness as an excuse to get away with things but idk man...this line sounds more like dismissing someone's mental illness. No, I haven't been professionally diagnosed with anything, but if I were to fall in love with someone, I would absolutely want to give them the world but I just don't feel good enough and that's not your fault so why are you taking it so personally!!
It's weird for me to hear those lines and then hear love and support in "there was nowhere for me to stay, but I stayed anyway" and "you've come a long way, open the blinds, let me see your face, you wouldn't be the first renegade to need somebody". It's a confusing song, for me. But I suppose it's also weird and confusing when your significant other says they love you one minute and the next, they're trying to push you as far away as possible... I hate it because I obviously don't *get* something that everyone else does. But, anyway, after this, I'm going to try to act like this song doesn't exist. Here's hoping I'll like Birch.
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